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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Black Eagle I will even tell you why the arabs lost 1948 war and palestine the same problems they had in 1948 they have today. 1. In 1948 the Israelis had more soldiers then the Arabs. 2. Israel united all it's groups under a single coordination, the Arabs had their own ambitions for example...
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    The Warsaw pact got the better models of the weapons, India, Vietnam and several others, the main problem is with arab military is the lack of training, the terrible coordination, an no good intelligence.
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    The Models the Soviets kept for themselves were the best even par with western tanks those shared with the warsaw pact, again it comes right back down to downgraded old T-72's vs brand new Abrams, Challengers used in the liberation of Kuwait. the iraqi's even dug holes and used put their tanks...
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Wrong both Egypt and Syria had night vision equipment, no the arabs were given monkey weaponry by the USSR because they didn't trust the more decent and advanced models would fall in western hands, Iraqi military lost much of it's decent equipment against the war with iran so they had to gotten...
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    T-90 is a diff topic, Since you said the Al Khalid has many of the features the leclerc has the UAE an Arab Country uses the Leclerc why haven't they they bought the Al Khalid which has the same features as you say and would help a fellow muslim brother country out ?
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Yes right now correct But I was comparing the western and Soviet tanks of the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's the best tank russia has is a T-90 which is an upgraded T-72.
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    I'm and simply giving the truth now Iraq poor military saddam had 3000-3500 T-72's downgrade and they were all destroyed, same with both Syria and Egypt against the wars with Israel. Ok OK I'm african-Mongol fair ?
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    There is noting newbi about this The Leopard is superior to the Al Khalid in every way, Russian Tanks are good with the right training they got a bad reputation mainly due to the Egypt, Syria, Iraq do to the the poorly crews and Monkey Models they were downgraded tanks, now if you compare the...
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    So it's superior to Abrams, leclerc , leopard, challenger. if it is why aren't the gulf buying this superior tank over the current western tanks.
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Iraqi Tanks were monkey model weaponry their T-72's were downgraded not to mention the Iraqi's Tank Crews were poorly trained, the arabs who are poorly trained they gave soviet/russian weaponry a bad rep but I would also blame the monkey model weaponry.
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Al Khalid is inferior to all western tanks it's good for third world countries sudan, bangladesh, myanmar, the only edge I would give to the Al Khalid is that pakistani tank crews are superior to Arab crews. It's inferior to all western tanks no wonder it wasn't used, only edge is the...
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Abram biggest problem is the fuel consumption and cost egypt got downgraded abram armor and abram uses german gun.
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    Saudi Arabia wants to buy 600-800 Leopard tanks from Germany

    Tanks for Iran or Israel ? if they are for Iran best route is through Khuzestan Iran terrain makes it difficult as for Israel :rofl:
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    India Scraps Domestic Jet Engine Plan

    I will give India credit because only a few countries have mastered Jet Engine TurboFans, USA, Russia, Eu even the chinese are still having problems with engines they still need 5 more years on it. but well done
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    India Scraps Domestic Jet Engine Plan

    back to importing then.
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    J 10 vs SU 27 vs Su 30

    The US does not need the J10 Su27 Su30.
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    India - forget 1962

    This is a troll thread bottom line Nehru provoked the chinese and thought they weren't going to do anything Nehru's problem was he was weak and aggressive at the same time he sent 1500 + men to their icy graves just as pakistani's suffer from a 1971 defeat indians suffer from 1962 if another...
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    India - forget 1962

    There is a difference with nanjing and the Islamic-british control of india. the invasion of goa nor starting 1962 war was aggression.
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    Yu Zhenhuan

    Yu Zhenhuan
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    Top 10 Trolls in Internet History

    South Asians have a curry smell wouldn't single out Indians entirely I actually was roommates with a Nigerian, Indian and bangladesh indian and bangladeshi liked curry also a pakistani running a gas station.
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