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Kirov destroyer length : 252 meter s jamaran 2 : 94 meters . it means it's about 3 times bigger than jamaran 2 beam of kirov about 29 meters and jamaran 2 is about 11 meters , again 3 times bigger . but the kirov tonage is about 24000 tons and jamaran 2 is 1500 (max load) . with the...

i think it was necessary to build jamaran 1 because we needed to know how to use Aluminum in the ship and the technology of the structure. now we had that. in jamaran 2 we gained some radar technology (almost all of the radars were changed ). the mowj 3 ship will be a kind of stealth ship...

i said that because with VLS you can carry alot of more weapon ! for example the russian destroyer Kirov (is under overhaul) with a tonage of 24000 tons have about 96 Fort/Fort M VLS cells and about 190 Tor cells... indeed it is a great destroyer ! now just compare the jamaran 2 to saar 5 the...

i think it was the HAWK missile that was changed to be launch by f14 ...

and R27 i think :) alamo ...

because for VLS you need to change to body of the ship ! you can't simply put about 30-40 cells of VLS on the ship ... the ship must be designed for a VLS .... now you want to put the VLS in the sailor rooms ?! or the command center ? kitchen ? armory? !!!!...

this is right. the picture is just after that the firefighters pulled him out of the car and the cloth on him have the iran's firefighting logo (MEANS THE MAN IS DEAD ) ... :( after that they will carry the guy to identify him and so on ...

I think if instead of investing about 75 million dollars on jamaran 2 , we had invested on a VLS missile , it would be much better , because with that method , we could have increase the weapons to about twice of now ....

and after this range , you can use OTH radars ( but with a lower Accuracy ) . still stealth is a factor that can guarantee your life in long ranges .... for example the Mineral-ME radar (nato name : Band Stand) with a range of 450 kms and ability to detect 200 targets and tracking 50 targets...

Caspian sea is too large ! even the hormuz strait is about 300 kms ! ( maximum range of the anti ship cruise missiles that i know) . now sea the size of the caspian sea !!!! it's too big ! enough for a ultra ship fight ...

waiting for an explanation ... in a naval fight , the one that have missiles that can attack enemy from longer distances will be the winner ... so still waiting ...

stealth tech mean a lot of thing in every war ! it IS important not to be detected in long distances ... we will see our heavy stealth destroyers in next years .... we just need to wait ...

we all know that the platform is old , so just for your information , this mowj class are built to gain the technologies , more than to use it against enemies as it was said that they may sell the jamaran 1 ship ... in jamaran 2 they changed radars and in next project mowj 3 they said that they...

i think the jamaran was with the 24th naval fleet of iran with full support of the fleet. The important thing is that we are building these by our own designs ... it will lead us to a good future ... > the next ship have also some stealth techs and higher tonage ( i think it was 3000 tons ) ...

sorry for that . i just mixed solar and lunar meanings ... indeed i meant the solar calender !!! THANKS FOR REMINDING ...

about the calender ... as i REMEMBER!!! Iranians used a calender that had 12 months ,but because of their miscalculation in some of the months , with the pass of the time the seasons was mixed up and they couldn't calculate the year in a good way ,so the Iranian mathematician and...

just because of that the ship can carry choopers it doesn't mean that it is helicopter carrier! there is a lot of more difference between this two classes! in this logic , you can call oil tankers as ACs! :D and as i had exprienced it the reporters doesn't understand the commanders at all !

since when kharg is helicopter carrier?! :hitwall: this news agencies must go and study !

it's just the news mistake ! they just put an extra zero ! 14,000 ! too high ! it's 1400 to 1600 tons ....

Mowj 2 > Jamaran 2 > Velaiat > Damavand .... it's like the project is jamaran 2 (second ship of mowj class) , the name is velaiat and the nickname damavand :D