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  1. muse

    Pluralism?

    If and it's a big if, he can actually be successful in society, that is to say, if he is seen by majorities, even his opponents as a man who is sincere in the ideas he expresses and if he can really effect society with these ideas, which of course are the ideas of Soroush, and Kadivar among...
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    Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

    It was always about terror for Wahabis - just study the history of this cult in Arabia, and see what they did to plurality of confessional sects in Arabia, they raided as far as North Africa in their many jihad You can be sure that the response of most people to Wahabi terrorism will be...
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    Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

    Remember we warned that Egypt was so destabilized by the fire the Wahabi had started that it might erupt in civil war, and one week later, --- well violence is the only language the Wahabi understands, I hope the Egyptian Army will clean Egyptian society of Wahabis and their sympathizers - The...
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    Yoga passes secularism test in US

    Just compare the concepts and ideas you mention and relate it to the Islamican mentality - is it any wonder that it's over their head
  5. muse

    MQM demands immediate arrest of terrorists in Karachi

    Armed politics is a necessary condition for the emergence of terrorism and civil war, Pakistan is primed - thank you Pakistan army.
  6. muse

    Flags!

    Give everybody their flag - It's the minimum this forum can offer to show that everybody is welcome, and that the forum welcomes patriots regardless of their nationality - it's fair, it's the right thing to do.
  7. muse

    Pluralism?

    I hope Iranians will be conscious of the reality that a society must first internalize a value system that is a foundation, that enables a political democracy - humane, pluralistic, values education humanities and science and open - such a society cannot be administered by a tyranny, it's not...
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    Onilne shopping, the new trend in Pakistan

    Strange article - if online shopping is picking up, how come there's nothing about the logistics business or payment security?
  9. muse

    Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

    When will Pakistan show the islamicans the same as the brave people of Egypt?
  10. muse

    What and who are behind hate-ISI campaign ?

    See that's what i mean, if they were good at what they are supposed to do "work in the shadows" none of this would have come up in the way it has. To make all this go away, ISI must be successful at what it is supposed to do - but you know after so much failure, maybe they just do not know how...
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    What and who are behind hate-ISI campaign ?

    Think about it, if ISI was good at what it's job is supposed to be, would there be a conspiracy to bad mouth it? And if they were good at their job, even if there was a conspiracy, who would buy into it??
  12. muse

    Yoga passes secularism test in US

    That's entirely valid, but while most Muslims assert that they do see the worlds in confessional terms, they are happy to use Kuffar, cars, telephones, bascially all technology
  13. muse

    Yoga passes secularism test in US

    They are both physical and mental - but curiously to you at least aerobic exercise is not pagan - Was the brophet a jogger?
  14. muse

    Yoga passes secularism test in US

    Precisely, if it help one focus - bring it on, if it brings one peace and calms the mind, bring it
  15. muse

    Yoga passes secularism test in US

    Yes that's certainly one way to look at it -- another is to replace Om with Aallah - the terms/chants/dua are all aides to help focus that's all and so if they help some to do that, why not?
  16. muse

    Pluralism?

    Wahabis cannot understand the notion of Pluralism, it is antitheitical to thier cult, but Muslims must - no tolerance without first an acceptance of pluralism in Islam and pluralism in society
  17. muse

    Pakistan teenage sisters shot dead because they were DANCING Check out all

    Death over expressing joy - a culture of shame and honor - does it have any place amongst us - loud and clear the answer is of course it does and it is good and just - think it over, what could possibly be worth this kind of societal price ? Well, Decency - next this muse will want Pakistani...
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    Pakistan teenage sisters shot dead because they were DANCING Check out all

    I had hoped it would allow you to consider - but we have rely on your mood instead?
  19. muse

    R-IP Gas Pipeline

    Pakistan enjoys playing "tool" - if no one is using Pakistan, it seems Pakistan has no reason to exist. My hope is that Pakistan will find a way, but I don't think it will, rather it does not have a track record that engenders confidence. It really is unfortunate that Pakistan seem not to be...
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    Pakistan teenage sisters shot dead because they were DANCING Check out all

    You are confused -this issue of insisting that "Decency" can have only one origin or content is at the heart of why Talib have legitimacy among many - After all, talib also stand for Decency and the sectarian extremists also stand for "Decency" - and they will both kill for it -- so the issue is...
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