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  1. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I'm against the Typhoon, it make no sense whatsoever
  2. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Is it possible tho to procure these rumored soon-to-be-decommisioned ships? Duke-class, La-Fayette and Anzac-class sounds nice, but how realistic it is for use to get them and commision them (not to mention the upgrades)?
  3. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    F-16, Sukhois, F-15, F-18, F-35, KFX.....seriously? Better to just cut it to F-16, KFX and F-35 F-16 : Already large quantity of them, established infrastructure, common spareparts and airframe availability, upgrade package is readiliy available KFX : Strategic medium-fighter program that...
  4. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    KFX is more closer to F-15 in payload than F-16, being a two-engine fighter with comparable weight, but slightly lower payload for the sake of reduced RCS and perhaps future incorporation of internal weapons bay.
  5. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Speaking from a pragmatic sense, we should not let our guard down regardless of who "won" in the end. If we have to do deal with either or both, we should always remember to think more of our own interest rather than any other parties, the bar minimum is protecting our sovereignity, beyond that...
  6. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Hoho, make sure it passes, CAMM is cheaper, better and more versatile than MICA in every way, but the only problem is that we'll have to get them from the British duh.
  7. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Speaking of long term plan, how many Iver that we'll get...let's say 10-15 years the future?
  8. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Who's this alman helvas guy? he sounds like a salesman, and he doesn't seems to be very consistent.
  9. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I had mixed feeling about it. Yes i am mostly happy that we gotta get this nice new shiny toy with full package and "exclusivity" prestige, especially after i look into Chinook vs Osprey comparison and it was a comparison between versatile knife vs rather flimsy longsword, yet nonetheless both...
  10. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Modernisasi Alutsista Jadi Atensi TNI AL 22 Mei 2020 6 Fregat Van Speijk akan menjadi 4 Sigma 10514 class dan 2 Iver Huitfeldt class (photo : Kivimaki) PROKAL.CO, JAKARTA - Kepala Staf Angkatan Laut (KSAL) Laksamana TNI Yudo Margono langsung tancap gas. Usai pelantikan serta serah terima...
  11. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Nonetheless, Loohoot CERTAINLY wouldn't trade human right of own citizens for Winnie the Pooh cuan money, RIGHT?
  12. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Australia need to stop pretend that they are like some kind of atlantic country, they are not! literally neighbor next door and they says things so myopic and ignorant like we're half a world away. It's either that they are dumb, blind or just plain mean.
  13. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Constantly trying to make this thread into his backyard chat club and refuses to abide by the norm to use English, for nothing but a ridiculous childish mindset, is wholly unsuitable for mature discussion. Rather than admitting being a divider, troublemaker in the place, instead he drags it...
  14. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Stop the fighting kids, contribute or just shut up
  15. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Damn, more complex problem than i thought
  16. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    WTH Why did Chestnut got banned? who reported him?
  17. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Jane gawe coro enggres gapopo se kon iku, belajaro men ben iso kontribusi seng akeh, jok ndekem ndek cangkangmu ae, gak kiro netes wadoh. Iki ngono forum luar men, yo sakpantese awak dewe, sebagai tamu yo hormati lah peraturan ndek kene, iki gak perkoro opo opo tentune gak perkoro elitisme, gak...
  18. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    This systematic retardation should stop, making a sword so hard that it's very brittle will only make the sword weaker and easily breaks, it's also the same principle with soldiers. Older generations seems to severely lacks and absolutely short off "common sense' to even understand the esensi of...
  19. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Lord Prime Minister Luhut is too money oriented that he forgets that it is a nation-state that he leads, not a corporation to always be run in business-like fashion. I never knew that sovereignty can be bargained for investments, that i think your average SD student know better the importance of...
  20. HellFireIndo

    Indonesia Defence Forum

    I am for to continue this batch 2 contract , changing the choice halfway will make everything too complicated and perhaps could domino into hurted relationship with SK, we should continue the plan and seek to built the second batch modules in PAL. Other than that, i supported TKMS for a...
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