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Now can we demand for those generals who ordered these helicopters to have an open court trail because you can be stupid one time ....2 nd time you can be and idiot 3 rd time it's called treason .....but the best of the best our intelligent military officials won't be man enough to admit there...

Sir respectfully don't waste your energy on stupid people who won't admit where there beloved PAF is wrong ....you have presented these people with the right information with evedience but it's like taking to a deaf person they still think and will carry on thinking PAF is superior to IAF...

Sir for a change we have to admit where PAf is wrong instead of trying to cover up weakness bad decisions have been made by PAf from last 15 years costing us time and presious life and making us weak in front of our enemy ....they didn't like j10 didn't had the balls to negotiate a proper deal...

Fair enough but who gets to clean up the mistakes and corruption in the armed forces or are they allowed to run around free ......the army is paid to protect us but I am sorry they are not aggerisve enough when it comes to dealing with terroitst ....the whole approach is wrong ...and the stupid...

Why everything needs to blamed on politicians when the army needs money they get it one way or another politicians or the government have no control over what the army gets stop being childish and blame the right authority not the same old band wagon of blame the politicians for everything...

Sorry to burst everyone's bullshit bubbles ....if you won't produce MRAp your self then you will carry on losing presious lives .....go ask a general why we haven't produced our own Mraps when every county where they are fighting insurgency war the security forces have got mRaps .....they don't...

Why can't we just close this stupid thread every single day we will see the same arguments

will it be a good idea to convert some of our land rovers to something similar like this ....a quick mobile rocket launcher

the whole concept of creating an aeronautical city on the idea that we are only going to keep it to military stuff is wrong .PAF /government have to use the city to train future engineers and other high skilled people required for civilian aerospace industry as well. even in the military stuff...

In simple and most favourite words in English take all your analysis and shuv it where the sun ,,,,the moon and the cows head doesn't shine ......Pakistan was created to Keep people safe from lownlife Hindu mentality ....your coming here to lecture us that we need to go back to being a slave...

sir do you think we chose the wrong heavy helicopter in long run ? specially whats going on with trums mode i doubt it USA will let us order more helicopters without making us beg for them and make us pay higher price... I am sure we will have difficulty getting parts from them as well .... sir...

Serbian arms industry is very advanced in some sectors i have to admire that can easily see at least 3 items we need from Serbia like nora b52 ,the new 4 *4 Armour vehicle , and the lazar 3

We need to act like hunters no mercy no safe passage no brothers not even a drop of water for them ...... 1 st stop giving them any trade route they can go to there other Dady Iran 2 nd no trade should be done with them 3 rd call a jirga request all the tribes either your with Pakistan...

You don't need to do detective work that's long and not good enough in this case reason why these afganis are not human and certainly don't give a shit about any single one of us ....for money they will kill any one and sell any one namak haram .......how much longer we need to treat these...

These afghani rats are already in Indian pockets any way ....what evedience you wanA seee brother ....we have been feeding these bastards from last 26 plus years how many more people need to die to open any ones eyes

sir if we dont ask we dont get anything....we have to at least try not just give them our money get the helicopter after few years we get in to same senario like we had with usa where we cant get spares or upgrades on time ...

Without minimum 50 % ToT the deal is not sweet enough at all we have to get our young generation to get high level skilled jobs no just nut and bold fixers even a blind person can do that with directions .... same needs to be done with anything we import the deal needs to be like 50% ToT in 1 st...

Sir will this deal be good enough without ToT ? I doubt it our requirement will end at 30 helicopters.....it will be again a.big chance missed from us to start our own helicopter industry

the wall or fencing have been required from past 10 years as it has been started NOW they need to take it to step further and not just stop it only at afgan border take it to the end of the IRAN BORDER i know the army has fenced some parts of iranian border as welll but if its not fully...

this is an article on nytimes newspaper very informative where the border security force have created a virtual wall instead of a physical one which has been very effective . worth reading the details how they have created it...