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Here's an article from a pretty reputable source suggesting that Pakistan inked a deal for Mi-35's I guess this article/post is more about Pakistani defense than Turkish defense but, Pakistani members especially, does anyone have an idea of what happened here? Not that it was a sure sell at all...

lol what an idiot. What do you propose then? Fly it? numskull.

So are these systems for point-defense? Such as anti-missile defense that would be setup around cities like Istanbul? If so, why exclude ballistic interception capabilities and do we have plans in-store for that?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Sorry about the tone. I meant no offense but I tend to come off as very hostile, understandably. On topic. This is a great step for Turkey. It's about time we start to have independent systems from NATO. Everyone criticizing this move on the basis of integration with NATO should step back and...

I'm sure they are proud of being Arab. That's why I said I don't believe those people are in the majority. I will tell you though, I would not be able to tell the difference between a druze/assyrian/arab without specifically getting to know them, aka them telling me. All I'm saying is this...

Umm. What? Who the hell cares whether we have a word for secularism in Turkish? We don't btw. The word laiklik comes from French. So? Just because you have a name for it doesn't mean anything. OOoooo, you used it first? See ya later man. Most Arab countries are very much not secular and those...

No one's trying to be European dude. It just happens to be in Europe because the Greeks weren't able to repel us, can't say the same about pre-Islamic Persia ;)

I highly doubt Erdoğan knows anything about the real reason behind the coup. It's obvious he doesn't because of how quickly his Brotherhood plans fell through.

No, no. I mean actually, it's in the European side of Istanbul. So they would believe me..

Russia and Turkey are also long time rivals and if I had to generalize it, most Russians dont like Turks, most Turks don't like Russians.. What does Tatarstan have to do with promoting relations? If anything it hurts relations because Tatars who are close to us have been added to the Russian...

Oh, I understand what you meant know. Yeah you're right. Turkic countries have problems with other Turkic countries so definitely that's not everything in geopolitics.

I believe visas between Turkey-Russia have been lifted in general

Which similarity of language? Kazaks speak Kazak :D

Gezi Park is in Europe.

The most backwards system in the universe bar none. It's not as existent in Pakistan though, right?

drats. I was hoping Abdullah Gül brought annexation papers with him! Long live all the Turks!

Let me ask you a question then. If Turkey is doing nothing to develop this UAV why aren't other countries doing or done it already? Turkey isn't a country like other NATO countries. We aren't given very stable and high-level access to technology. Why then, isn't France, who has a specifically...

Well he is manipulating people though, Sinan. Don't take too much offense to that because I'd say it's true. How many times has Erdoğan distracted from the main issue at hand and start barking about other things to get people to forget about his faults?

Yeah. That's the problem with Eroğan's populism, you said it right in the last sentence. He blinds people. He has a booming voice that, unfortunately you don't speak Turkish but, it almost convinces you he's right. And he's not, lol. ------ I would ease off blaming the MM affair on the...