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I'm not sure that the news is true. Any credible sources?

It's not about loving army or not but talking like that to a not so friendly country and then, maligning the forces, it's just plain case condemnable. Definitely, questions his patriotism and if not that, then his mental faculties. Leave journalism and military alone, it is unbecoming of a...

Says it all: Hamid Mir Jaffar!

On Topics: We cannot close our eyes to this. The threat that looms causally today will be a reality in a decade from now. It will be air based, satellite based war. We just can't go nuke out a country, this programme needs to be taken up SPD now! It will take years to develop! As for today, PA...

Yes, they don't need to get into a direct conflict, already doing enough damage to us.

They really don't that for such things. Hamid Mir may not have lied but tells half truths passionately, anything sensational to malign the forces laying down their lives for you, me and him. Only 2 days ago, we lost an officer and troops.

Can these Mirages really fulfill their job description, say for the sake of wargaming, it's a war in 2018 and we need to strike deep in India? And sanctioned strength: I know it's not but shouldn't that be an evolving number. IAF, for instance is operating well below that number. Admitted...

Ofcourse not, but a significant amount of people do stand by his side.

Lifts hearts! Wish to see a 5th Sqn soon and total strength going to 100.

Agreed. But changed times, no? No one even cares about his ranting anymore,

Cool it man, PAF has been doing the best job under the given circumstances. No one was prepared to sell us pretty much a few years ago and even today, except China.

Sure, the number of F-16s should go past 100. They are proven fighters rather than JFTs. The best thing would be to replace the F-7 & Mirage with old F-16s and go slow on production of JFTs with more R&D for block Ii and then III. And all old models should be upgraded to Block 50 MLU: things...

Let's trust, they do! :)

They aren't toys, a chaos won't out them at risk but they know their game: discredit the army; civil war and then if army was to have a split-in only then, only then would even then they lay disintegrated. But that doesn't happen and hence, they stay safe!

Still, buddy, I disagree. How is that $ 20 billion estate harming the economy? These foundations create jobs, they pay taxes, they build infrastructure: they don't bully other businessman. Take Fauji group or the Askari, their audited accounts are available, they work ethically, so what if they...

Yes, things are not 'idealistic'.

Comeon, who will care of constitution of he's been running an empty stomach? And then you got to understand the electoral system isn't perfect here, we need direct elections and probably, compulsory voting too but that's fodder for another thread.

And then these foundations are for welfare of soldiers and officers who lay down their lives, get injured or as we all know retire early and need employment. My father retired as a colonel on completion of service a day before his 45th bd and I, being the eldest had barely passed my O levels then.

So is the truth. It's Geo that speculates, you shouldn't. :D

Just wishing JFT production Godspeed!