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I am looking forward to more info on that. How do you see that it is basic tech?

I think we see that indeed the JF17 is fabricated a lot later so better designed. There is three decades difference. Simpler is not worser but in this case looking better. Good stuff. And you can see that there is room left to do more in the JF17. Does someone had the same of a newer F16?

Some of the planes are optimized for display and most pilots are full time only display pilots. I think that it does make difference and it is pretty amazing what PAF shows with almost no effort with fully operational planes.

One was not there for upgradation but for testing purpose. The planes are tested and delivered but some equipment or weapons still needed to be tested. Same happened with Block 60 of the UAE. They kept some planes to be tested while most of them were delivered so UAE could start pilots training...

Is that the country that blows up a crippled man with an hellfire? It has no ethics. The reality is that it steals land cause it is written is a book. It terrorizes entire populations and calls them terrorists if they react. And it acts like Hitler in ww2. Concentration camps. Lebensraum. And...

India needs the commodities from Afghanistan but there is one problem. These commodities have to be transported through Pakistan. Same reason China will have an easier game. And that is also the the reason behind Irac, Afghanistan and some other brutal invasions. Political motivated but mostly...

It is not the plane that makes the difference.

No, according the people that should know there is not a radical re-design.

It is not obsessed. The plane is good and PAF knows it inside out. They have around 70 so getting enough spares to keep them up in the air is a smart strategy. If we buy time with that we can get more evolved FC20 or other options. Surely we all like PAF to be better etc but there are no better...

Nice pic from PD

You guys need to understand the background. Decades ago you had best fishing grounds near Ethiopia. Then it was pretty much a dump place for highly chemical and nuclear waste (Italy was the biggest party in that). All fish is gone and the former fishermen have become pirates to get some food. It...

Just for info. JF17 is optimized against Indian BVR threat. MAWS, IRST, small and agile and low RCS. Add to that ECM optimized against all Indian BVR's and you know that is is bound to be a firewall.

You need them all to stop China. And this time your bases will be pretty much without runways. You did see the range of Babur, didn't ya?

It does mean that in WVR there is no escape if you are newer gen or not. The best pilot most of the times win. But PAF moves from WVR to BVR. So they can provide a better battle then in the past. So here you are in your huge MKI getting cornered by SD10b from BVR distance. Surely you have huge...

Indians have the hypocrisy to call anything outside India less and done by Indians as better. Let them have those dreams cause the reality is a big difference. LCA begging to get bought and JF17 production rising like no other.

They are burning. It is kind of amusing. A self proclaimed superpower takes a few decades to buy something and even then we know that it will be toasted by China. So they start chest pumping and screaming that PAF has no flight hours or lost wars. We can simply compare projects like AK-Arjun...

I have seen that plane but I doubt whether it had this painting in reality. Looking at the pic it looks like a ferry trip from Farnborough. And the panther has different grey then the numbers. All together a bit PS.

Don't tell me you can not find that? I am not interested in servicing those that defame us on every occasion. ---------- Post added at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:37 PM ---------- According to Indians back then the Bison was better then latest F15.

Well some time ago an F18 beated F22... No Indian raised voice. Then even T38 beated F22... No Indian again. Yet now it is Pakistani pilot and suddenly they know more then a 1sth class journalist that knows his job. I feel pitty cause if you have nothing to show you start pointing at others.