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Where did I say the appeasement will include F16s. I think the needs of the army and the needs of the new Government need to be looked into. A

Things may not be as black and white as this. The US will want to appease the New IK government. How they do and what the demands of the Pak government will be remains to be seen.

Bhai. At the moment the most likely for me might be a visit from the Vigo and being cavity violated , and I dont have the appetite for neither. I have tried to contribute where I can, on topics where I have some understanding in the hope that some day someone will understand. My reward lies with...

Ithought the total value was 6 billion. Have we been given a teeka of 4 billion?

as long as it can be shown that there is an alignment of national interests that can be served best by such support. Shah jee. This remains the bug bear and the crux of all international relationships. Pakistan has lacked tbe vision and foresight to see this and get major benefits from it...

Bhai. Iam happy to have this discourse with you. However it is beyond the scope of this thread. Please open a thread on US external relationships and I will be happy to contribute. You do have valid points but need an explanation on international relationships and how to see them. A

My understanding is that ANY modification to the specs/systems of a platform needs the consent of the OEM. Turkiye has this consent for its own systems but not to export it to others. Neither do the US like you so much that they will grant your request even if you were to make it( I see no...

True that!. Shah Jee at his diplomatic best!! We are all equals except some are more equal than others!!! To be honest and fair we ourselves are responsible for our own predicament in this troubled relationship and this should be accepted by all and sundry. However, enough of side tracking and...

I dont think the M3/5 deal with Egypt went ahead. M2Ks from Egypt would not make any sense for PAF at all. A Bhai Saheb. US will not allow this to happen. Plus the money for the ulgrade is not there. Look at the upgrade costs of the Taiwanese project. The costs are likely to be in the ball...

Shah gee. But the level to which it will work with one against the other will always differ. Currently India plays the role of the step sisters while we are the poor Cinderella. A

Our problem remains replacement of obsolete fleet. A Tumhe beizzati bhool jani pare gi Ghulami ki rahon pe aa kar to dekho. Just a slight variation on ghe Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan song for your entertainment. However older F16s remain the cheapest way to force modernization. That is a fact we...

It was a Hit and I dont deny this. I fully agree it was a brutal blow that was dealt out. Look all I am saying is we should first confirm what happened and then act. We do need a judicial enquiry along with one in Kenya. My question remains who gains the most by this murder? Was it the...

Perhaps you might enlighten this old man what you mean A

While I am very sorry and also angry that we have lost a brave soul like Arshad Shareef, I would exercise some caution. We do not know why he was in Kenya in the first place. Was he lured there or sent on an assignment by his news agency. This needs to be established. Secondly there is a...

Let us mount Fazlu deisel and showbaza Shareef and bomb India. Allthe children will get done, there will be no deisel as Fazlu will corner all the agencies

Are the engine issues resolved ie same partner supplying the engine or is there a new engine? Help appreciated. A

Agreed on the JFT which is a lot clearer than your earlier post. Re the TFX PAF has been on record saying TFX ticks all the boxes for PAF. No such statement has come out on the J31/35. On the contrary ex PAF officers have pointed to J20 as a potential future acquisition. So of the j31/35 and TFX...

There will NEVER be a FULLY INDEGENOUS JFT. This is the same as saying we want a fully indegenous Gripen or Samosa Tejas. There will only be a few powers in the world which have the infrastructure to build a fully indegenous fighter. On the F35 also there was international collaboration as was...

The point was to depict the depravity of our elites. Thank you for your response none the less. A

Can we please leave him out of discussions please. May Allah give us all hidaya and make our lives subservient to HIM. May Allah forgive all of our shortcomings. Ameen. A