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  1. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    DO YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSION ISSUE OR ARE YOU JUST TYPING FOR THE HECK OF IT?? I am asking you to follow the rules of the forum and you are persistently taking it down to a AL31 vs WS10 debate. To me it does not matter whether the J10 comes with whichever engine. I am ecstatic that the PAF has...
  2. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    This was not the purpose of the post. May I remind you that you are on a Pakistani forum. So why would you be there unless you have some interest in what goes on in Pakistan. The question is not one of the origins of WS10 but simply one of decorum. You can disagree and present your argument but...
  3. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Can we please agree to disagree and move on. NO ONE on this forum knows what the basis of the-statement is. Even the nay sayers are relying on Open source info. There are problems here. Open source info is only as good as the writer writing it. Behind it maybe many layers which we do not know...
  4. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    When you look for the wrong things you will always be disappointed. The JFT Specs were always a bridge too far. Anyways-there was chatter that AWC has started doing things inhouse on the sd10s and PL series. I see a lot of developments coming out of this if people are not afraid to experiment...
  5. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Badshah. You have got to start somewhere. You cannot get the big Agarbatti without getting a few small and medium sized ones. Savour the moment. It is still something to be proud of if confirmed. A
  6. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    That was then. Please remember we did not have much in the way of choice-within our budget. Now we have choices so the same restrictions may/ may not apply( US end user agreements aside). A
  7. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    @Deino My only reservation will be that the Chinese will not want to-support a potential competitor to their market. We hear a lot of good things but in the bargain a lot of wrangling and nit picking is left to the side. It has never been a case of "Pakistan asks and China provides". There are...
  8. araz

    Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

    Engine tech on RD93. Rest we can do without. A
  9. araz

    Lessons Learnt from Operation Swift Retort - AIR CDRE KAISER TUFAIL (R)

    I dont think we should rely on ANYONE coming in to fight our war. China is as likely to step in with a 2 fronted war as is likely to let us face the music alone. Reliance on anyone qould be q falacy of the greatest order. Then there are the usual maggots that come in for their opportunistic...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    In every situation of chaos lies opportunities. A lot of deals have been made in times of chaos which have proven pivotal in development of a nation. We need to watch and wait. Let the paint dry on these days to see whether this was a good or a bad move. No one knows the future but let us hope...
  11. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    I expect a lot of reserves have been built up. PAF would/should have anticipated this war and made allowances. Similarly I also think that the general perception at the moment is that this war is not going to last long. So supply chain disruption is unlikely to affect anything. Lastly in case of...
  12. araz

    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    You will continue to be disappointed as stealth features and speed are very unlikely to increase. What/is our infatuation with these 2? You need to sit back and read through this/whole thread. So many times this topic has been discussed and yet every few pages someone comes up with the same old...
  13. araz

    Lessons Learnt from Operation Swift Retort - AIR CDRE KAISER TUFAIL (R)

    Jo You have been sorely missed. I dont comment on this vs that threads but reality checks on both sides is so important. The world is no longer a peaceful place and volatility and right is might seems to be the norm of the day. Unfortunately NATO which started this business is now on the...
  14. araz

    Unconfirmed 9 Afghan Casualties at CHAMAN

    I think we need to calm down. Whether we like it or not the Afghans are our brothers. This is not something Iam saying but merely repeating the commands of my Hadi SAW. There are a number of complexities afflicting the Afghan setup. They have never been a cohesive force and execution of the...
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    Lessons Learnt from Operation Swift Retort - AIR CDRE KAISER TUFAIL (R)

    I would disagree. I maintain that part of aindian calculus was that the missiles having landed in barren area which has not cqused any loss of life/will not be responded to by Pakistan. That Pakistan has reszponded only goes to show that the next time the planning and execution from across the...
  16. araz

    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Deino. Iam looking at it slightly differently. I think it did not have support initially. So they went out seeking it in the guise of an export only version. They did not get any joy. Now that the PLAN has shown interest the history is being changed to "we always had support. It just got...
  17. araz

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

    Thank you for your response. I agree that we should wait and see. I have intimated what, in my very humble opinion is or is not possible. Right or wrong can be argued. A
  18. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Not for the next 2-3 years. Our go to fighter will remain JFT and the venerable F solah. A
  19. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Dont make any sense. It seems listening to these people that PAF has started growing a money tree. Apart from the financial issue the actual acquisition does not make sense at all. A Beta. Keep your enthusiasm to yourself. No one in their right mind will come to a war arena loaded up like that...
  20. araz

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

    A good example is the one between eadlier and later blocks of the16s. Outwardly the same but internally worlds apart. I dont think things are as simple as that. Things like introduction of AESA required a lot of changes to incorporate tubing for the cooling system. You may be able to put in a...
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