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  1. Mutakalim

    The fate of minorities in Pakistan

    According to you. Majority believes otherwise. Majority is in support of that law, that's why no one even dares to talk against it openly in the public. That is democracy for you, just be a democrat and try convincing the majority by openly taking a stance against it in the public. If you...
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    Guns Fall Silent on the LoC

    I agree. Negotiations are the result of acceptance by both parties that they can not alter the status quo with military means. Both parties have reached stalemate, efforts for negotiations are just reflection of the situation on ground.
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    Guns Fall Silent on the LoC

    Talk peace and make war.
  4. Mutakalim

    Akhand Bharat possible, will be good for Pakistan, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat

    He is right, Akhand Bharat is possible. However, under Muslim rule, just as it was in the past.
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Lol, what? Are you saying that Hadith knowledge of Imam Malik, Shafai and Ahmad bin Hanbal was limited? Please dont waste my time, I dont have guts to first understand and than reply to such absurdities and nonsensical statements. Peace! Keep living in your lala land.
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Being a student of a teacher may be irrelevant in all other fields except Hadith. In hadith, the reliance of transmission is solely dependent on truthfulness of the transmitter. If a disciple is found lying about his Shaikh, then its consensus of Muhadiseen that all his transmissions will be...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Imam Bukhari wrote Juz Raful Yadain, the same Bukhari who was disciple of Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal, one of the Imam among Aima e Arba. The same Aima e Arba, who were spreading Tafarkah in their days, according to you. Now please read again, what I have written in previous posts. Then stop...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    A Mufti can not stand in front of your knowledge and wisdom bro, I have to consult Grand grand Muftis to answer your ground breaking and earth shattering revelations. But they all miserably failed. Alas! I associate myself to Islam and all my affiliations are towards Allah and His Prophet A.S...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Does it matter? It seems to me that you have problem with every group, except Shia and Najdis. Although, I am not sure whether these two groups are also Biddati or they are the only Jamaat of Momeneen in Muslims. Your whole argument revolves around allegations of Tafarkah Bazi against all...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    You are shifting goal posts now. Lets stick to the topic which we were discussing about Aima e Arba and Sahaba. Sufi's are not important than these personalities. While you are so eager to show snaps of pages, why dont you atart with showing snaps of these accusations: Show me the collective...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Well, I am not discussing this topic with any ghost. I didnt resorted to any personal attacks, instead I am just demanding evidence of your claims. Please answer this: Let me come to your point of Sahih Hadith. How you know that there is not a single hadith about holding hands at or below...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    So, were Sahaba also involved in "Tafarkah Bazi"? And only you are innocent! Can you declare Sahaba "Tafarkah Baz" (Naoz o Billah), based on your self righteous and egoistic ideology? If not then your argument is dead. You have started from current generation of Ulemas, then you moved to...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Try to answer my arguments with evidence instead of throwing personal tantrums.
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Again, everyone was wrong and I am right. Please bro, come up with something different. Fissures were created that turned into monsters, but the majority was not responsible. Dont hold grudge against every other person for wrongdoings of few individuals. Dont treat Muslims as Kufaars. Why dont...
  15. Mutakalim

    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    I agree that the group was rebellious as Allah's Prophet had issued verdict about them. I dont know how this argument is supporting your claim? Are you trying to claim that Sahaba were also involved in Tafarkah Bazi? This example only supports my argument that actions of individuals can not be...
  16. Mutakalim

    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Please take your time, we are in no hurry. It was indeed an act of Tafarkah. However, it can not be attributed to whole Ahl us Sunnah. Well, my ancestors were the biggest victim of state persecution by Banu Ummayad and Banu Abbas. Still, I dont consider Ahl us Sunnah responsible for those...
  17. Mutakalim

    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Well, your acquisitions and gross generalizations are quite clear to comprehend. Why dont you try to answer my arguments instead of hurling personal attacks. Which sects ulemas were darbaris? Perhaps, whole Ummah was involved in this act, as per your understanding. As, every group has some...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    Bro, you are claiming something that I am not accepting. So the logical thing is to present your evidence. Please enlighten me what Aima e Arba said about each other? Did they declare each other biddati? Did their respective schools issued collective fatwas of Biddat against each other? Where is...
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    The quest of the ultra religious right and liberal left to destroy Pakistan

    In my opinion this is not the meaning of Tafarakah, which you are trying to present here. Having difference of opinion regarding interpretation of fundamental texts in not tafarakah. These difference of opinion existed between each and every generation of this Ummah, from Sahaba to this era...
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