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Stop trying to refer to J-10CE as block 4. Its a weak attempt to stroke the ego. Not fooling anyone and achieves no logistical benefits. They are completely different aircraft. No need to conflate the 2. As for Pakistani FGFA, i dont see any unique or independent project coming to fruition...

1. Stopping Thunder production after block 3 may seem premature. It depends on how effective it is and the availability of a more powerful powerplant. With the advent of the dual rails and Taimoor ALCM as well as numerous A2G weapons, it becomes even more cost effective even against J-10C. If...

100%. My statement is not a slight on Pakistan, but a reality check. To where its sector is vs fanboy dreams. We like to talk without understanding of our actual capabilities or those of others. That said, i honestly believe with better and non military management (private sector) of these...

No he wasnt. What can pakistan make for its aeronautical industry by itself? It can assemble, sure, but its aviation sector is truly in its infancy. It has no ability to design much beyond some low to mid level UAVs, it has not wind tunnels to test those models. There are talks about some AESA...

Many of us have said in the past that Pakistan does not have the technical or industrial base to create a 5th gen foghter on its own anf that likely this wod trickle down to joining TFX or J-35. Looks like this is right. The thing Pakistan should focus on acutely is that if they plan on joining...

Im hoping that the 10m longer length vs. Babur means that the 16 cell VLS will be something like Turkey's MDAS VLS which should allow for quad packing Albatross NG rather than the GWS.35 expected to be on Baburs.

Correct. No-one needs to speculate about HQ-16B or HQ-16F until those are first adopted by PLAN. They aren't coming for PN until they are in use by PLAN first, so all other discussions about them are moot.

I think for this to work you would need a Baykar Pakistan subsidiary otherwise it would have to have a partnership with PAC. Irrespective, if Pakistan is playing a role, it will need some amount of the IP pie (even if the work is turkish, some of the money is Pakistani).

Not sure why people keep bringing up Chinese flankers. China almost was unable to buy russian weapons when they ripped off the flanker. They were under a strict agreement not to sell any flankers externally. Short of Russia giving the go-ahead (which is virtually impossible in the current world...

It needs aesa for because it provides better and more reliable performance is harder to jam and has superior EW, ECM ECCM capabilities. It isnt necessarily a longer range. That has nothing to do with the weapons selection.

What? I dont understand what you are saying... Are you imply that because the 054AP has an AESA radar it needs an AESA equipped missile? That is not how it works. The missiles can be guided by any FRC they are integrated with AESA or otherwise. While the SR2410C works as the multifunction (long...

Will believe it when it happens. Right now PLAN is not even equipped with HQ-16B. And a jump from 70km to 160km in the same from factor is a little hard to believe in such a short span of time. So even if its a real thing (not convinced) it is probably a few years away from PLA and subsequently...

What are you babbling about? Yiu get that the Jordanian F-16 all underwent SLEP and MLU 6 right? Do you just babble or do you actually read what these things are because multiple senior members here have patiently tried to explain to you what that means. It means they are equal in electronic...

Khan Sahib, you expect people whose entire education was in military strategy to understand how to run economy, health and education and foreign diplomacy? For some reason, Pakistani seem to think that their generals are qualified for all of these fields and dont express concern that...

Lets not forget that the Ukrainian forces are backed by satellites which can detect Russian movements, and are also getting regular supplies of radars and weapons from the west. So it isnt that the Russians didn't establish air superiority, they did... But what good is air superiority when the...

So with CAMM-ER /Albatross, remember the 45km+. The CAMM is 25km+ but it has been tested to be able to hit targets out to 60km. Id imagine camm-er has a real range of 75-90km. Also, are we sure Tughrails have HQ-16B because only thing i have seen show that PN will have HQ-16A. Do we have any...

My experience is they are very intelligent, sometimes too much for their own good... Rather it is not a wise and forward thinking nation. Or it is too emotional a nation. Actual intelligence is definitely not the issue.

So here is my question, when so many of you have witnessed such severe mismanagement over the years, why on earth have you all celebrated military rule? They cant and shouldn't manage companies, let alone your nation. Sad that it takes IKs overthrow to have the majority of people see that.

The company was already successful in Turkey before him. His father created as an automotive company. He had a fascination with military aircraft so when he took over, he changed it to a military contractor. That said the industrial base to do it was established by the father Özdemir Bayraktar...

Firstly i am no sheep, and dont think im one of these dudoos that gives a shit about other people's opinions of me (including you though I have always shown you respect). I call it like I see it. The US has little to no real use for Pakistan at this moment. As such, weather Pakistan operates...