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    Mid-life upgrade for F22P

    What i will say is that i think the PN made a mistake going for Milgem. These Russian steregushchiy corvettes seem far more capable and are far less expensive. Algeria paid $150M each for the Tigr corvettes which are the Kashtan variant. I would imagine that the cose of the VLS and missiles...
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    Mid-life upgrade for F22P

    @Rafi What options even exist? Chinese, south african, russian etc. I definitely think a VLS can be added to the F-22P as far as space is concerned the only issues would cost and how much PN is willing to spend. The biggest question is if they do it for cheap or they are willing to spend to get...
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    Pakistan Navy Missile Boat Contingent

    The reality is that while Azmat is the size of a FAC, It isnt fast. Its top speed is 30kt. It is loaded out more like a light corvette. But i think it is the ideal surface platform to expand the PN surface presence (with some modification): 1. The original gun on Azmat and Dehshat was a twin...
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    Britecloud Decoy option for Pakistani F-16s

    While more people are talki g about it now, its not entirely new. Infact @Bilal Khan (Quwa) and I had discussed this a 2-3 years back as part of potential electronics package for JF-17 blk 3 package centered around RAVEN ES-05, Britecloud DRFM, and Skyward-G IRST. Such a system would be a huge...
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    Based on these pictures, I think 2 triple Harbas would fit on this. They should have gone for the 16 cell vls as well but I get its supposed to be a OPV. Beyond that I think 2 Type 1130 CIWS with 6 HQ-10 each could be fit behind the main mast/tower just ahead of the AShMs. That in times of war...
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    Pakistan Navy | News & Discussions.

    I too am a big fan of them, but i would make a few specific changes which i feel would make them significantly more capable for not much money. 1. Remove the twin 25mm cannon on the Azmat and Dehshat and the STOP 25mm chaingun on Himmat and replace them with an advanced CIWS, ideally Type 1130...
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    Mushshak Trainer Aircraft

    Frankly it should have 4 missiles at least. Even Burraq UAV carries 2 Barq missiles. Either 2 more hard points or dual ejector racks
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    Capabilities of PAF Dassault MIRAGE-III/V.

    @khanasifm Which white bombs are used there in the mirage picture. It looks like 8-10 total are being carried with 2 a2a missiles and 2 drop tanks.
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    Air Chief calls on Prime Minister Imran Khan

    In any event, that is the point if having people trained on the jets ready to go ahead of time.
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    Air Chief calls on Prime Minister Imran Khan

    PAF operates F-7, JF-17, and has operated A-5 and F-6. Outside of China no one has more experience operating Chinese aircraft, so i dont think the learning curve will be significant. Additionally the JF-17 is set up very much like J-10 AND its radar/electronics are based on those of J-10. With...
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    Air Chief calls on Prime Minister Imran Khan

    I dont mean a lease. I am not for spending miney unnecessarily,rather training pilots on J-10 and securing a deal with China that should the need arise, they will sell their own PLAAF aircraft to PAF on an emergency basis to fulfill number and capabilities need in a major conflict. At that point...
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    Air Chief calls on Prime Minister Imran Khan

    I strongly doubt any further misadventures will take place before the elections, especially since the world heaped praise on IK AND GOP for de-escalating the entire conflict and showing proper restraint. Especially there would be no strike on a military installation given that would ve a blatant...
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    PAF successfully test-fires indigenously developed long-range smart weapon from JF-17 Thunder

    The trajectory doesn't appear to be a missile. For people stating "long range" well that could be a number of things. I would say 60km for a bomb os a reasonably long range (glide bombs like JDAM, GIDS REKS, H2, LS-6/Takbir).
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Sorry @Dubious . Will do better. Im just tired of people coming here passing info with no evidence to back up claims. Then go and attack other members who challenge the claim or ask for evidence. If you dont know or someone corrects you or asks for more info, we dont need give edicts from on...
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    PAF Keeping Indians on the Edge l Pakistan Air Force jets go supersonic at LoC

    France should think twice about selling more rafale. The stronger they think they are the more liable rafale is to get shot down like the Beast of the East MKI. Dassault must be thinking at this time... Not a good look rafale being shot down of IOK.
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    PAF successfully test-fires indigenously developed long-range smart weapon from JF-17 Thunder

    I believe thisnis a GIDS REKS attached to a 2000lbs bomb. The tragectory doesnt match a cruise missile.
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    Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

    Thats not entirely true. This capability was actually mastered by SAAB and it is a well known functionality of Gripen/Erieye combo where the entire sqd of gripen can fly radar off under the guidance of erieye and it can put the targeting algorithms for missiles carried by gripen. Can also be...
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    The deal is signed. What headway are you talking about? The notion that ZDK-03 is superior is not supported by any verifiable paper or article. But neither is the reverse. We only need look at PAF actions to see which they are more satisfied with. They could easily have acquired more ZDK-03 or...
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    There is zero evidence of that. If that were the case, PAF wouldnt be buying 3 more. PAF will be the largest single operator of erieye after that deal.
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    Pakistan Considering HQ-9B to Enhance Air Defence Capability

    Bro i know what they are. That is why I said they would make a C-RAM component along the LOC where daily artillery and mortar strikes from India leave people at risk. The fact is they are not just propaganda tools. Iron Dome for example works reasonably well as evidence by its success in...
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