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  1. Jammer

    Nothing less than the very best for PAF

    This is not about being a fan, this is about being an adult. These are not personal grudges, this is a reaction to being berated and having to listen to rude comments without much substance. My prerogative, if you don't like it you don't have to get involved or give a lecture, that's the mods...
  2. Jammer

    Nothing less than the very best for PAF

    The above read is an excellent example of how this forum should work. Cordial discussions, evidence and links to back an argument or point, every one gains from this discourse. Well done @CriticalThought, @aliyusuf !
  3. Jammer

    Nothing less than the very best for PAF

    The point my dear friend is that respect is very important. After having read your posts I do not consider you any sort of expert yet decided to still interact with you as a professional. Pointed out some flaws in your ridiculous no guns for JF17 theory (wanted you to realize the dynamics of...
  4. Jammer

    Nothing less than the very best for PAF

    That made no sense and now it is forever abundantly clear why you are a fan of his. You deserve to follow him around.
  5. Jammer

    US Helping India Track Chinese Submarines

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1309495/us-helping-india-track-chinese-submarines
  6. Jammer

    Pakistan Military Multimedia

    Nope, no help needed. Thank you.
  7. Jammer

    Pakistan Military Multimedia

    Agreed, goes both ways, getting tried of people being rude and crass for no reason. There are some members on this forum that basically start every conversation by demeaning the person they are conversing with. Kindly have a few lectures ready for them also, or better still ban them to set the...
  8. Jammer

    Pakistan Military Multimedia

    Grouper
  9. Jammer

    Removal Of Autocannon GSH 23 / 30 From The JF 17:--

    I would be interested to see where you got your information regarding the design team not wanting to put a gun in the F35 and F22. A stealth fighter is obviously not made to dog fight, however, since the world is not perfect and everything in life is not linear, there can be instances or...
  10. Jammer

    Removal Of Autocannon GSH 23 / 30 From The JF 17:--

    Disagree. Especially considering the limited airspace Pakistan has to work with, inevitably short range missiles and guns will come into play as bvr shots are evaded you will merge (and not fly into Iran to take another BVR shot :-)). Guns also come handy in ground support role, much cheaper and...
  11. Jammer

    Defense Against S400

    This will do it.
  12. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    Actually I would love to know what the point is. Was there loss of civilian life as a result of IAF and Indian Navy targeting strategic targets like Mauripur base , Kemari, the port etc. I would say probably yes as you are confirming to me. The same thing was happening when we were targeting...
  13. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    Ordnance was used on strategic targets (i.e Kemari) and Naval ships, don't know why bombs in particular are of importance here (I'm probably missing the point). Below are two links that might be helpful, they lay out war activities in 71 in an around Karachi...
  14. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    Well flanked! :-) Not bombs but rocket and strafing attack, read the fourth from last paragraph in the attached AC Kaiser Tufail's article, hope its what your looking for. http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2010/12/air-defence-in-southern-sector-1971-war.html
  15. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    I said protecting the sea lanes will be the first and primary function of these long range fighter bombers, I know what else they can be used for Khafee :). Lets see what happens on the change in doctrine, I think with China so vested economically in Pakistan we can maybe see this as a force...
  16. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    Yes Khafee the situation is slowly changing, there is great effort being put into finding a a "long legged" fighter bomber mainly to protect the sea lanes as we have never had to this extent due to the development of CPEC. Will the addition of such fighter make India re-calibrate , will such...
  17. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    @MastanKhan, you are right I am being silly, should have remembered the famous Mark Twain quote which I will modify a bit so as to no offend you "Never argue with a ___, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". Please accept my apologies Sir and continue regaling us with this novel...
  18. Jammer

    Why A Medium / Heavy Strike Aircraft For Defense of Pakistan?

    Most people growing up in Pakistan in the 70's remember the stories of Sheikh Chilly, one famous one is where he finds an egg. Instead of eating the egg he dreams of waiting for it to hatch, selling the chicken and buying two male and female chicks, who will grow to lay more eggs, imagining more...
  19. Jammer

    Pakistan Military Multimedia

    Whatever floats your boat friend.
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