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i don't want to play ping pong with you. I'm tired of your nonsense. play with someone else. bye

these are your fake narratives which are shared by your types in droves. you and your types aren't fooling anyone. The commanders in TSK are loyal to the commander in chief and all those gulenist and athiest have been and are currently being flushed out

and you insult the commander in chief of turkey which is a crime in the Turkish constitution

This is when AKP started banging the PKK severely. All anti-erdo went ballistic including CHP and Gulenist

Your peace process was supported most by CHPKK. Do a little research and even now pro Pkk party is supported by CHP. You ain't fooling anybody. Both CHP and HDP share the same LGBT ideology

TB2 is cheap and expendable whereas Anka is expensive and prestigious.

so what are you insinuating?

Nothing! Its just some anti erdogan fake patriots are trying to make a big deal out of it.

Its tricky here. If Erdogan rejects his resignation then he needs to go against those who pushed for the admirals demotion in the first place and it mostly likely Akar who's a defence minister. Best way to deal with this is get him to become one of the presidential advisor

Mate! What backlash are you talking about. Erdogan can dismiss all of the generals if he wants to. Generals will never ever be above presidency. In this situation the admiral is loyal to erdogan but i believe some investigation should be done. So the first kemalist atheists were spreading that...

The shares of CHP is taken and put into the treasury. Who said AKP taking them?

Guys we've already got another thread about the admiral.

We'll be in the same position even if otokar was awarded the contract. And then we would hear other conspiracies like how govt is dragging its feet of not commencing production because of corruptions. The real deal is that Turkey has to spend the funds wisely so its balance of power is in its...

You have to understand in today's day and age there will be no single heros in war. When a country goes to war now its the whole defence tech complex goes to war in addition with the military. If weren't for defence technology, ISIS would have ruled the whole of asia by now. As for the admiral...

We don't know what was the details in the suggested negotiations. Its the details that infuriated akar not the negotiation itself. So dont jump to conclusions as usual. Negotiation is going to be done with israel but details must be in turkeys interest short term and long term

The Altay project was a prestigious project by the govt but not a strategic one hence it has been placed on the last of the pile. It will not change the balance of power However, the strategic projects are Aviation projects and missiles, radars and warships and turkey needs to spend wisely due...

Apparently there was a heated exchange between the Admiral and the defence minister Akar who later got infuriated by the Admirals apparent suggestion of negotiations between Israel and Ankara over the delimitation of maritime borders He was popular amongst government circle for having a vision...

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I agree here but don't you credit AKP for this? The guys simply used the gulenist to dismantle the kemalist structure that indirectly controlled every politics in turkey since its creation. Would you blame them for this? And then the AKP dismantled the gulenist. This looks like a work of...

I dont want to derail this thread intentionally but please explain a bit more about the admiral's problems with some western countries? Also, this episode reminds me of the commander of the operation Euphrates shield when he got demoted sometime after. You have to understand that Turkey has...