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    Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

    I think its not confirmed yet that 054B VLS will carry same HQ-16s. Perhaps it could carry more versatile array of missiles / with possibly more ranges etc ? But nevertheless, 054B has solid improvements, the Radar looks massive and so the situational awareness must be great, The ship also...
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    Indonesia picks the F-15EX to push back on China

    This indian troll is still active.. If you say Earth is Flat and You are superman who can fly and shoot lasers from your eyes then that is more believeable than the stupidity you have shown in above comment. Btw, if you were not an indian troll, you would have bothered Why we don't use 1...
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    PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

    That's unfortunate. I think there isn't much a mechanism to collaborate on acquisitions. Each service only consider its own requirements and they have no concept of tri-service wide adoption. However, as far as PA adopting HQ-16 is concerned that was done way before even CAMM-ER was...
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    Why No PAF Response To American Drone Warfare In Waziristan (2002-2015)

    Exactly, they are not trained to do it. They are only trained to do one particular job that is War - destroying other nations. Imagine when they use their expertise on their own country -- result is Pakistan.
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    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Iraq was going to get doomed no matter what. In first gulf war the US army armoured and artillery divisions moved in only when Iraqi air power was completely destroyed. So you have to prioritize your air power. Your conventional deterance is your air power. Once that is gone then no...
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    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Do you think if Iraq would have had modern tanks then it could have survived the invasion? BTW, just look up Iraqi armoured divisions before the start of war. Iraq was pretty beefed up on tanks. Those all were smoked. I think Saddam hussain worked on your advise and bought so many tanks and...
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    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Not sure, if you are serious or really kidding lol. if we have citizens who think like that then we are doomed. Not gonna lie, I used to think exactly like that some 40 years ago when I was in 5th grade. Bro, No one is going to invade Pakistan. Why anyone would even bother to invade...
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    Why No PAF Response To American Drone Warfare In Waziristan (2002-2015)

    Oh God! its our assumptions thinking that our Army has any capability to take a stand. When fate of 250 million people depends upon one General with less than average education and capability to handle situations is even worst then you see the drama that's happening for 75 years. Our...
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    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Yeah, we have 100 billions dollars in reserves, we are exporting electricity to other countries, 240 million people have access to health and other basic amenities and so we have enough spare money to waste on New Tanks. Good idea! BTW! even with 100 billion dollars in reserves why would...
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    PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

    Yep, I agree to most of your points but differ on the size of the ship. Basically we are talking on assumptions here. We really don't know if PN would even pursue Azmats- II program. PN is building patrol boats already. 500 ton and less ships are basically for patrolling the coast. They...
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    PAC Releases Specifications of It's HSTD

    I don't get any sense of their growth plan with these drawings. These are just buildings. Crowded private factories building products for export are much better than Big Fancy offices with no productivity. Pakistan state organisation's has a mindset of "Afsar Shahi" and "Pakki Naukri"...
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    PNS Azmat Class - Fast Attack Missile Craft | Updates & Discussions.

    Would be great, if we see Azmat II with Stealth design, point defense missile system like RIM or HHQ-10, SSMs etc. Something like below: IMO, PN needs numbers too. Large fleet of light corvettes with decent capability can act as good deterance. Such ships are ideal to make a bigger...
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    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    A lot has changed drastically in last 25 years. If we do data analysis and see the patterns its just matter of time before China will lead in most technologies. Not going into bits and pieces but just giving the overview from strategic pov; See China is the only nation on earth with its...
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    The hopeless downward spiral

    When you do regime change operations then exactly this happens. PTI were given 5 year mandate but low IQ General thrown the govt out just because he could not resist a little pressure from US think tanks. If a govt has to change than only people have the right to change it. Otherwise, its...
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    Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

    I think you misunderstood the part where I said a dozen KAANs. I was specifically saying that with respect to the timeline of 2040. As my original reply was in response to the post talking about PAF in 2040. In your reply, you are suggesting that PAF will have 90 KAANs. I can agree to that...
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    Is SUPARCO REALLY a failure?

    SUPARCO is definitely a failure. A complete waste of tax payer's money. Thousands of employees taking salaries, perks, pensions and everything without any productivity. They are now used to go office and wait for 3:00 pm. An organization must have an active project. The employees must...
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    Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

    Yep, I agree that JF-17s and J-10Cs will be in most numbers (as we are going to replace F-7s and Mirages) However, I have a different view point about KAAN. Considering the very high costs, I don't think PAF can possibly induct these in numbers. Infact I think PAF may even procure more...
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    Fourth Milgem Corvette launched for Pakistan Navy

    Exactly. The comparisons can't be drawn by placing a ship in a middle of ocean in front of enemy fleet. when that's not the role of it at first place and that's not the strategy to counter the adversary. The importance of a platform's role can only be understood if one understands country's...
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    Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

    @arslank03 Would you bother to explain what prompted you for that reaction? I am not saying PAF will have total inventory of those fighters. I am talking about additional purchases. So, in a best case scenario by 2040 and if we assume KAAN will be our 5th gen selection: - A dozen KAAN -...
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    Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

    Impossible. will buy 40+ J-10Cs (or its next version). ~100 JF-17s (next blocks) Less than a dozen 5th gen fighters (in a best case scenario) . No way we are going to have multiple 5th gen platforms within next 2-3 decades.
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