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BTW, I totally agree with you. Just to get that out of the way... But my point is this: what if the qaum just isn't ready yet? What if they are destined for slavery and are satisfied with a pathetic status quo, simply because it's better than neighboring Afghanistan (for example).

The point is that colonial masters think imperially.

Iraq needs freeeedommmmm, let's attack.... Palestine doesn't. Iran must not get nukesssssss, let's attack... Israel can have them.

They also bought land, rerouted the ring road to raise the prices, sold it, bought more, re-routed it again... you get the picture :)

And if the majority are okay with the status quo? Or the powers that be rig the outcome?

Allow me to quote Caligula: "Oderint dum metuant" which translates, roughly, to "let them hate as long as they fear."

As I feared.

There are millions of (a) fanboys, (b) beneficiaries of this crooked status quo, and (c) patwaris. I would say it's the mil leadership vs. every true patriot now. Either we become a place that can be a member of the league of modern nations, or we remain a quasi-failed state / banana republic...

But the powers that be won't. So, what's your solution?

What were the actual casualty figures when the dust settled?

What a joke. Kangaroo courts. Banana republic. Failed state. How many generations of status quo robber-barons does this qaum want to worship and the establishment want to use? We're doomed.

The ISI's track record? Please share. Compare Pakistanis killed by Indian proxies VERSUS Indians killed by Pakistani proxies in the past two decades. That's the only record you need, and it's pathetic and shameful.

1) We don't have the balls or the will 2) We don't have the capacity to do it deniably (intel more busy in domestic nonsense than modernizing its tech and tradecraft for stuff across) --- function of the first point, and also US intel support to India that exposes our every move 3) The above...

Same 'kichree' in the intel community. No other nation serious about progress has this outdated institutional framework.

Beautiful! Keep hunting

We have killed countless of them. Such movements cannot be eradicated by killing replaceable commanders alone. Its only possible by denying them sanctuary (wherever it may be) and raising the cost for their backers (often India, this time the Afg Taliban). Without that, it's just tactics ---...

Both possible. SSG teams operated in Afghanistan even during the previous govt there. Regardless, a few less TTP scum. The IEA official apparently hosting them probably shouldn't have been spared. Taliban finally moved into action after the same group attacked them at their mil airport.

Both possible. SSG teams operated in Afghanistan even during the previous govt there. Regardless, a few less TTP scum. The IEA official apparently hosting them probably shouldn't have been spared.

I know that our boys hunt across the border too. Of course, using proxies is an option as well. We always make the mistake of risking intel and human life to tackle the terror groups themselves without having any strategy to truly raise costs (read: deter) their backers. Earlier, we had no...

Fun fact: all relevant Western nations only became proper (full voting rights for all adults regardless of gender and race) after achieving industrialization. They benefitted from slavery, empire/colonies, etc.