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    Turkish Missile Programs

    For the next couple of years, Turkey will only rely on even older block 50 F16.... I have a doubt about a US supply of V70 MLU kit.... And in the case of a EF2000 purchase (or Gripen ? LOL), Greece have not to be so afraid, because the range of the only air to air able EF2000 is far too...
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    TURKEY break dependence on Foreign Military Technology ( all projects with details )

    Absolutely not. It is a electric powered gun, for reliability. Nothing to come close the US older gun except caliber.
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    TURKEY break dependence on Foreign Military Technology ( all projects with details )

    Copy and paste of the Cobra 20mm canon.... You are more and more the modern chinese.
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    Indeed. And Donald T said "Turkey can say good bye to F35". LOL. You are not serious Bro.
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    You exactly say what I said before : the first F16 was made to be daytime dog fight fighter, so vstudy to be very agile (the BVR role was for F15). Then LM add BVR, more potent so heavier radar, and more load capacity mainly for export. The plane became heavier and heavier with always the same...
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    as in 1664, or 1918..... They did, as when they didn't agree UAE and Egypt to use their F16 in Syria in 2011. I haven't seen the world not purchasing US weapons since. And Chyprus is not a turkish violation of international laws ?
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    Far than enough to destroy all the S400 in the region. A turkish software to drive the coffee machine inside? USA and credibility ? Just remember the 100 F35 ordered and partially paid by.... Turkey ! Sure, but after they have made all sorts of destructions among the S400 battery, the HQ...
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    It depends who open the fire first..... Do something against Greece and the support of your Awacs will be cut immediatly by uncle Sam. That means that your bird will be out of order in weeks because no dedicated spare parts. Even before if uncle Sam had installed a software on/off switch on...
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    Your forget that the earth is round.... No. some Su25 made until these last weeks some CAS mission on russian ground troops. Just us some less powerfull weapons, but fired from the Greek islands so near your country... and made the same circles :sniper:
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    There are more and more rumors in India about the Rafale integration of Brahmos mini (not the heavy model !). Same old rumors about Astra integration, now officially confirmed. Next step is, indeed, Brahmos mini anti ship and anti bunker supersonic missile. A real game changer. Yes, a longest...
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    See my driving license and passport (I remove my full name and adress). Note "Republique Francaise". And see my picture and firm : the same in the two case... ie just impossible to find on internet fake documents of this kind of the same guy.
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    They can prevent a Turkish air domination. And no modern war is won without air dominance. These 24 are only the beginning. I see a final between 36 and 48 Rafale. Add 20 to 40 F35. F16V in the squad soon... More than enough to halt your numerous but old fashioned air force. And specially...
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    Nice looking beast. Quantity, sure. Quality not really, in hard and in soldiers training. Greece have unrivaled (so far) Rafale. Greece secured F16V upgrade. It's all but not made for Turkey. Greece will probably ordered some F35. Cold case for Turkey. Just a small call to Joe Biden and...
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    You are wrong. definitively wrong. And don't be surprised of my commitment to India : they are friends of France, what Erdogan's Turkey is no more.
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    The F16 of first standarts were real dog fighters. As they take weight with time and the necessity to be BVR able, with the same "small" wings, it is less the case. F16 was refused by IAF for MMRCA because the aero performances were not jugded enough... About Rafale vs EF2000, just have a look...
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    LOL. the EF config came from the US-german X31 plane with TVC and long arm canard. But due to budget contraints the TVC were never integrated. More complicated but less potent. I don't know the perf of Gripen and J-10, but there was numerous dog fight training betwwen Rafale and EF2000...
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    Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

    False. Qatar and India Rafale, at least, are fitted with.
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    No. I don't take always the side of Pakistan. It's not the same. But specifically on this forum it seems forbiden not to found all muslims, pak or chinese products ... very fine. They simply are not. Absolutely. The M2000N and D are nice CAS fighter.... Your are fine, except for EF2000...
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    From pk-15 , JF-17 Thunder and Al Khalid to fifth generation stealth fighter jet project Azm

    Once again no. Tejas don't use a pure delta planform. It is a cranked delta. Not exactly the same. Not the case, but you think what you want. I don't see what is your goal. Sole part of your post I agree with. M2000 has to take advantage at the beginning of a fight, and it can. If this...
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