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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    All is in the purchase agreement, discussed for months.... So if there is no ECM, it was crystal clear for Greek top brass. Same for IRST... I think the delay was short, so a first standard ship will be deliverd asap, with upgrades including in the contract to follow after that, as for...
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    It is a cold case ! Mediapart, a full left wing news paper, tried for years to attack the Dassault family, without success.... The last bribe was about the subs purchased by pak.... causing an attack against french people working in pakistan... Just to be clear.
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    It will never be the case. We are curious to see Switzerland, Finland and Germany with their lightning incapable of flying in the storm. We don't want a false 5th gen fighter, short on supercrise, agility and availibility when we have a nice 5- gen with just LO instead of VLO.
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    LOL. 5th gen is only a Lockeed Marketing marketing tool. The sole "so called" 5th gen of the world is F22. Even the F35 is short on the 5th gen assets according to LM : not supercruising, not agile as a F16. And the weapon system is all but not mature. I fully assume that Indian sources are...
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    You prefer to use a chinese news or a pak one? about a non war proven system? Okay...... Ask uncle Putin how potent are the russian/chinese goods. SU-35 for exemple....
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    just have a look : https://hindustannewshub.com/world-news/american-f-16-fighter-jet-vs-chinas-substandard-weapons-pakistan-in-dilemma-enmity-with-india-heavy/ "The reason for this is that China’s weapons are still not as reliable as those of America. This is the reason why Pakistan’s...
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    A better weapon system. A far better elecronic support system. As all the chinese wepons, the real status of J10 is absolutely not known. As all the chinese weapons systems are direct or nearly direct derivatives of russian ones, and with the poor results of the russians systems in Ukraine...
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    PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

    It is undoublty one of the most beautifull bird of the actual production.
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    EXCLUSIVE: Final IAF Rafale In Sight, India Squeezes In More Enhancements EXCLUSIVE: Final IAF Rafale In Sight, India Squeezes In More Enhancements - Livefist A 36th Rafale fighter jet, the last airframe of an Indian order placed in 2016, will be delivered to the Indian Air Force a month from...
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    A so called peacefull nation with so many weapons and so less bread for the people.... A so called peacefuull nation with a so called peacefull religion....
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    From a EF2000 lover : https://hushkit.net/2020/09/17/eurofighter-typhoon-versus-dassault-rafale-a-2020-comparison/ *** You decided not to post ALL the twit.... Best pilots on EF2000.... you compare apple and orange, as often.
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    Rafale vs EF2000 : a 2020 comparison. https://hushkit.net/2020/09/17/eurofighter-typhoon-versus-dassault-rafale-a-2020-comparison/
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    During trainings Rafale was always superior to EF2000, at such a point that RAF didn't want to train against us for years. Even when at the RAF request the weapon system of rafale was shortened (ie as a Russian mig 29 level, without active seeker missile), we aways win but with less margin. In...
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    Mediapart is a french tabloid, one of the sole in France. The owner, Edwy Plenel, is specially against the Dassault family (I don't know why, but the so called rafale bribe is a old obsession) and known to be islamic compatible... It is a news that weight nothing.
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    Qatar rafale use all day long Targo helmet. One of the best of the world helmet. The French and Greeck Rafale are not equipped only for financial reason. The plane are ready to. How many helmets on Turkish F35? Oh shit... my bad.... not F35 for Turkey.... How many on other turkish...
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    Yes yes.... ASELSAN is the whole world best in every thing. With such company it's really incredible you are not able just to make a 1500cv MBT engine. It's incredible you want to purchase old junk as EF2000.... Incredible. TURKEY UBER ALLES ! zieg heil ! said nearly 52 times : the 828...
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    Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

    IAF need more 4.5 gen fighter (ie Rafale) https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/we-need-4-5-generation-aircraft-iaf-chief-as-he-flies-rafale-jet-in-jodhpur-101667897933511.html ***** Last of the first 36 Indian Rafale to arrive in 1 month.
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    It was the RBE2-AA prototyp figure, of 2005, with US T/R modules (average quality modules, thanks to our US "friends", showing "only" a 30% increase in perf versus RPE2 PESA. This is why UAE needed in 2010, during the first round to sell them Rafale, a more powerfull AESA radar than the one...
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    Meteor : so is Rafale, with a smaller RCS... Better AESA radar ? The Rafale one has 10 years of refinement behind it, and 25 considering the PESA one (with some softwares used in the AESA), when the EF2000 one is just born, probably with only limited air to air mode and no database. Helmet...
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