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    T-129 Atak & Turkish Attack Helicopter Programs

    impressive this 20km range missile, but is the weapon system of the helo able to find a target at such a distance? big doubt.
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    What ultimatum? I think your eyes are so dirty that when you see the word France or Greece you say bull shit all the way. You forget that we also have to built Belharra frigates for France... But don't worry my dear, these frigates may be French or Greek, all are made to kick your little a** !
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    When were these Meko like figates ordered? All the rest is only snake slime. 3 frigates built at the same time? May be special for a third country as Turkey, not in France : 3 SSN built at the same time, 3 Belhara built in the same time... With all the disemployment in the near balkrupt...
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    Greek order inked 15 month ago, and first vessel already on production. https://www.naval-group.com/en/greece-launches-its-program-three-defence-and-intervention-frigates-fdi-hn-naval-group Delivery in early 2025. A pretty good performance for a brand new vessel, whant you only are able to...
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    More and more links between french and greek forces. A good move far all of us against a war friendly Erdogan's turkey.
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    Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

    Turkey in the hands of IMF before. In other words, you will be in bankrupt before. You called that a serious source ? my poor....
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    Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

    The EF2000 customers purchase F35 because EF2000 is only a air to air platform, with very limited air to ground capacity. Not the Rafale case. Rafale road map is paved until 2070, with at least a F7 standard. We only are seiing F4.1 today, so.... 2030? In your dream. Maybe in the form of an...
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    Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

    Are you ill ? China is a 1 billion people country. USA is a 340 million country. Turkey < 90 million. GDP : Stop dreaming. Stop believing the Erdogan's lies. *** A so called 5th gen fighter, made with US engine, with a indefined status weapon system, with no proof of stealth except...
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    Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

    China never had a 66% inflation rate, for exemple. The Turkish economic situation is bad. Erdogan will not be able to hide the situation for years. Turkey is a panther that sees itself as a lion. But really it may only be a simple cat.
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    And no. Greece and UAE may have been interested, no such R&D dev were made on this for the reasons alredy explained : too short market and an emphasis on Rafale. ? Have you a source about these 30 birds standard? I'm quite sure there will be no Meteor delivered, but MICA NG. 1000kg Hammer ...
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    As said, the frame is now quite "easy" to study and produce. Engine tech is mastered by : USA, Russia, France, GB. China status is not clear : It seems they are now able to produce a copy of Saturn AL-31 on their own, but far from west reliability, and it's now a quite old design. India...
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    To built an aircraft is one thing, and Turkey do it very well it seems. Tu study and built a fighter engine is another beast. See how India struggle with it, despites yearS and billionS .... I wish you good luck. vettes ??? FDI : first of class, for french navy, is keen to make its sea...
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    Greek/Hellenic Armed Forces Thread - Pictures, News Articles and Discussions on all Greek/Hellenic Military Affairs.

    = Bull Shit. No news. It's a cold case. No. No plan to integrate it on M2000. 3 reasons : cost of integration, not to create an alternative to the Rafale, M2000 radar range not appropriate (even the -5 and -5 mk2 models).
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    Expert’s warning to US Navy on China: Bigger fleet almost always wins

    Not really. The US and GB intelligence (and not the french one, sadly) was aware of the russian compaign. If the decided to attach 30 days before the US & GB intelligence would have alerted 30 days before. The russian tried to take Kiev by surprise, thinking that the ukrainian government fall...
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    Expert’s warning to US Navy on China: Bigger fleet almost always wins

    See the russian exemple in Ukraine : they performed badly because very centralized (so not agile) despite some field trainings (Tchetchenia, Georgia, Donbass...). Chinese army are built on the same model, but without any real experience. I doubt it will be fruitfull at the first use.
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    Expert’s warning to US Navy on China: Bigger fleet almost always wins

    How many war for China these last 50 years ? You have your answer.
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    So where is the air intake(s) ? Is it a air breath engine?
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    Check out the weight of the explosiv load. One is able to sunk a frigate, the other is a toy.
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    It is so stupid that half the turkish people is struggling with incredible inflation. Don't see air intake. May be a ventral one ? MM40 can be launch from a Helo, a maritime patrol plane, a fighter. Why not a UAV? What a stupid answer you made :sick:
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    Turkish Missile Programs

    Where will you find the money? a kind of new Exocet MM40 bk2 (with powder engine). Nothing new under the turkish sun this time.
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