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  1. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    There is no evidence to your claim that Pakistan has signed agreement or contract for WL2 for Azm UAV program.
  2. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    And the pictures prove what? Only that the system is in testing, and a few years from being proven. Given the history of CH-3, and CH-4, would CH-5 be miraculously different? Everything looks good on paper, but such huge investment (speculated to be 10 million clean config, 20 million with...
  3. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    Because the system is far from ready, and the end users are not naive.
  4. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    They seem to be going out of their way to abuse me and question me. Listen son, kindly learn some manners first before I would feel i need to engage with you. Our discussion is for enlightenment, not to blindly accept your fallacies and baloney. Kindly read the posts of your country members...
  5. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    I thought i was on your ignore list? Seems like you go out of your way to answer all of my posts. Please read earlier, climb a pole and dont feel the need to address me and converse with me till you learn some manners, and follow decorum when addressing experienced people from the field.
  6. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    You are wise and perceptive. The propaganda arm of PLA is active on this site trying to influence the few readers with fabrications and assumptions. They also seem to have a huge issue with free opinion, openly doubting and abusing, and questioning our loyalty and nationality. This just shown...
  7. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    You raise an excellent point. However, I dont think the Chinese government will be offering to sell CH-5 to Pakistan for 1 Million USD each bird, rather 10 times that price for clean config bird and 20 times that price with payloads.
  8. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    I believe it was CH-4 that crashed. CH-5 seems to be bigger bird as per the General Atomics reaper family. However, i would like to observe that even CH-3 has not been accepted / inducted till today due to obvious shortcomings and flaws which are yet to be rectified. What to talk of CH-5? The...
  9. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    For the ones who wish to learn, CH-5 is a clear copy of the Reaper Drone. Aerodynamics dont change. The claims of CH-5 being suddenly from heaven are simply technical not possible. It is an advancement of the Chinese industry but it is a reverse engineering of a US bird so aerodynamically it...
  10. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    My information is neither outdated nor misleading. You need to stop waving the biased rhetoric of your country. It is based on my knowledge and observation, the background you dont have. Whether I am American on Pakistani is none of your business. You can keep noting me as long as you want...
  11. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    CH-5 is a fiction and a concept still and its capability is far from realized. It will take at least four to six years for the bird to be validated. Since its a reverse engineer or crashed US drone, the performance remains the same as the MQ family. All other claims by Chinese are outlandish, if...
  12. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    Purchase of CH-5 will be a clear MTCR violation and will cause a lot of issues for Pakistan and the specific decision makers at this sensitive time.
  13. Bilal Khan 777

    COULD THE CASC CH-5 UAV BE AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN?

    Any attempt to acquire CH-5 or CH-4 drones would be ironic: It would be against the previous Air Cheif's claims that they are making the MALE UAV / UCAV themselves. If you look at the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), any transfer UAV with a range of over 300 Km is a clear violation...
  14. Bilal Khan 777

    PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

    The person alleged that a full contract amount was paid to some fictional contract. All I say that is not possible. Second, any advance payments in Pakistan are only enabled against Advance Payment Guarantee, they are 20-30 percent of contract value. Advance payments are always secure. You are...
  15. Bilal Khan 777

    PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

    Regarding the F16 deal, we got the money back, or the barter amount. The money was given back, but that contract has no co-relation with the current allegation. That was a milestone payment and they still re-imbursed us. Later, we too the F16s that were on aggressor duty that had acceptable...
  16. Bilal Khan 777

    Mid-life upgrade for F22P

    Type-21s are beyond their useful life, and on their way out. Only if it was this easy. F22P could take the following upgrades: 1) New C4I system 2) New Surface / Air Search Radar 3) Secondary Nav Radar 4) New LPI Nav Radar 5) New Naval ESM System 6) New Naval Jammer 7) New EW / Acoustic...
  17. Bilal Khan 777

    PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

    Do you feel the news story is correct? The wife claims that he called home and advised he was the Officers Mess. How is he abducted? He was obviously under arrest and when faced with the FGCM charges, he took his own life. Who do you believe? the Official version, or the Wife's claims, who...
  18. Bilal Khan 777

    PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

    Your statement implicates and maligns PAF in a sweeping statement, so I don't agree. The "deal" in question is not just one deal. Your speculation on the HMD has what evidence or reference? There is no record of the UK HMD ever being ordered by the PAF. Just conjecture? No amount of money is...
  19. Bilal Khan 777

    PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

    Dear readers, I don't want to say much about this subject, as it was a tragic event in the history of PAF. I will tell you just this much: GC Rizwan (Late) was a Logistics officer from Risalpur 85 GDP Course. He was overly smart and sharp boy. He was known to be involved with many civil...
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