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Back in November when he voted with the government he claimed to have been asked to show up, I suppose he didn't get that call this time. Also remember this, when IK won the vote of confidence last year?

IK’s not that important, people are inflating it way too much. Yes his supporters will be unhappy, but he won’t be kicked out of politics as a result of this, as happened with elected PMs in the past when they were kicked out by dictators and not by the assembly itself.

I said the opposite of what you think I said in that thread. Also, I’m not an active mod anymore, can’t do anything at all here. Report the trolls.

Lol, constitutional amendment when you don’t even have a viable minority. Good one FM. Ps, I’m pro devolution, but this is a lame stunt

Of all people, PDF is least tolerant of Indians (not in spirit, but in practice). Only the most nationalistic among us think the opposite. Take my word for it.

As long as it’s not illegal, cool... let’s see what happens. I’m not an IK fan, but seriously sceptical of some weird mix of opposition running things, nor do I want to see another PM prematurely removed (again).

All while Pakistan’s hands are being tied via FATF, no ability to intervene in IOK, while the other side has a free hand to do as they please.

Yes, but also money, power, allegiance, establishment backing, popularity. IK kept all these members in line for almost 4 years. Did they become evil at the start of the year? If they sold out, why now?

This kind of dynamic seems a bit unlikely, that is unless we take the absolute most hawkish view of SC opinion and also believe the ECP act similarly. Disqualification is possible, but a government that relies on disqualification to keep members in line can’t go on for long, vote of no...

Same deal. Everything is being blamed on an elaborate foreign conspiracy. IK if removed from power will claim that he was some visionary leader looking to draft independent foreign policy via China and Russia, and the West + Pakistan's opposition conspired to remove him - sounds like hogwash...

Seriously doubt that, IK is trying his best to make it seems like he's some political martyr, or removing him is some large foreign conspiracy.

Sure, but also Japan should accept and apologise for the Nanking genocide. Spare us the sermon Hirohito.

63A defines defection. Voting against one's party as I said it, happens all the time. Happens in democracies all over the world. In the UK, there was a huge parliamentary process to push through the EU withdrawal act, government tried three votes if I'm not mistaken, first two times it failed...

You'd better quit this nonsense. I've quietly looked past it for far too long.

Correct. They will rightly ask all sides to back down for the sake of security and preventing political violence. Because if either of them comes to the capital, it’ll be a standoff with the other side.

Why meet them? They’re neutral. It’s not like they used their power to bring you to office and removed your political opponents in the past, surely?

Voting against your party isn’t technically anti-democratic or against the law. This is however, definitely anti-democratic and illegal. PTI and IK never once complained when they were the beneficiaries of the same type of politicians and back then it was called “voting with conscience”. You...

An immediate election if it results from the removal of IK might be the best option. A random and disgusting mix of different opportunists at the helm is something that should be avoided. IK going is not all bad for democracy, he isn’t really a democrat in practise, it’s just sad that yet...

I hope they don’t go missing on the day the NA is in session.

If PDM takes power, the coalition will be even weaker, even more subservient than the current government. It won’t last, and it shouldn’t last. That may not seem the case right now, but the power dynamics will make it so, betrayal and deal making will be par for the course. If IK survives, it’ll...