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  1. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Next President will ask the ex-PM to continue on as PM as per Art. 94. Lmao pantomime.
  2. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Sure, but that does not give him the legal justification to do what was done. SC doesn't care who wins the vote, whether PM stays or is voted out, and they do not even care if PTI members become disqualified as a result of voting against their party line. They will however draw the line on the...
  3. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Exactly. We have got no affirmation from the military. They were allegedly shown the evidence in question and now when asked their response is "ask the government". Already COAS moved to take a different stance on Ukraine, likely appease the more Western ideals. Does this sound like the action...
  4. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Misapplication of Art. 69. The courts CAN and HAVE claimed jurisdiction. Article 69 does not supersede the rest of the constitution, and this is why the Article 67 qualifies 69 with the term "subject to the constitution". So that is why the court took up (rightfully) a suo moto notice, and has...
  5. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Without a constitution, you have no legal structure, no state. No PM, no ministers etc. If you violate it, you will be subject to punishment and whatever steps taken reversed. Sounds like you folks need more awareness of what this document signifies. All ministers, president, PM army officers...
  6. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Yeah, I don't agree. Let's wait for the SC, they've already started taking up the matter, so this whole notion of no jurisdiction is wrong by default and because of what I already explained wrt. to Article 67.
  7. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Agree, but I've not been buying this charade from the start. If there was a foreign plot to oust him, he's just kicked himself out for free. I don't buy the whole story, his MPs were looking to abandon him for a very long time, they are afraid of losing their seats in an upcoming elections and...
  8. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    They may choose to cite this as a reason not to intervene in ordinary affairs of parliament. But there are examples in plenty of countries in courts intervening where they judge that a move was conducted under "malafide intent". Here we're talking about a constitutional violation, which is under...
  9. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Brother, they've already declared jurisdiction. It's done, the matter is with the SC. And from a constitutional perspective, it makes perfect sense. Leave alone these arguments.
  10. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Fully agree! He clung on to power too greedily. His supporters are foolishly celebrating. They don't know yet the level of shyt the man has gotten himself into. He deepened the political crisis that has resulted in the NCM, created an foreign relations crisis via lettergate, and has now created...
  11. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    And it seems that the SC has verified that they will have jurisdiction on whether the rejection of the motion and dissolution of assemblies is legal, ergo it doesn't count unless the SC says so. @AZADPAKISTAN2009
  12. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    First comments from the three member bench at the SC already raised questions on the deputy speaker's application of article 5, despite no legal grounding in an ongoing case, conviction etc.
  13. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Agree, this is a gift to the opposition. Eventually it will help the opposition tarnish IK when they inevitably get called back to vote. It also gives IK's enemies legal ammo to go after him later on, and wrt the vote... the amount by which he will lose is going to be even greater. First...
  14. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Good question, actually there was a difference of opinion amongst them. JUIF and PMLN wanted early elections as soon as workable, they conclude that there is no point in trying to govern with a messy minority and the latter want to win an election with a majority. The PPP and some other players...
  15. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Courts don't intervene in parliamentary matters where they have no cause for jurisdiction, but IF the constitution is deemed to be violated, they have jurisdiction anywhere and everywhere. Let's see what they say, but if they conclude that this move was unconstitutional, they will have full...
  16. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    There'll likely be another thread once we heard something from the SC. I agree, even if the opposition had won the vote, the best outcome would have been an announcement of elections in 90 days. It's really perfect timing.
  17. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Here's a quick summary: Today was the last day for voting on the NCM. It HAD to be done today. SC previously ruled that not counting any particular MNAs vote would be "contemptuous" - even if that vote leads to disqualification under 63A, as per the last SC opinion from the presidential...
  18. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    That's good to hear. I think you should not celebrate too early though. The legality of this move is going to come under fire, if the SC moves against it, then this celebration is premature. Personally, I'm quite happy to see fresh elections, but running from a no confidence motion and...
  19. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    I agree, fresh elections are actually the perfect outcome. But the method and legality of the current move is going to come under heavy scrutiny.
  20. Jungibaaz

    PM Imran Khan vs Opposition No Confidence Vote- Updates and Discussion

    Lmao, I can assure you. I’m enjoying the show. Not a hint of anger, alhamdulillah. :D Wait for the dust to settle kiddo.
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