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  1. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Come on man, can at least you of all stop this annoying-*** trend of popping into a random thread, making a random demand/claim without even reading about what’s going on and then just leave. What do you think the GL5 and GL6 are? Did you even read the long conversation that was just had about...
  2. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    I would recommend reading the forum threads regarding these specific topics to find answers, most of them are already available and fairly obvious. I know that some of it will involve quite a bit of digging, but I simply don’t have the time to type out answers to these because they’ll inevitably...
  3. iLION12345_1

    IDEAS-2022 - Updates & Discussions

    AKs engine makes rather poor torque, it being underpowered and under-stressed is one of the reasons for its decent fuel economy and reliability. The VT4 is more mobile and hence has easier provisions for better ERA, add on armor and an APS as a result. Not to mention the transmission is...
  4. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    Thickness and layout is unknown. Both turret and Hull frontal protection exceeds 800MM of armor against BTA-4 when equipped with FY-II. With FY-IV it would be higher, exceeding 900-950MM, against Indian BM-42 1000MM+. (The source for this is leaks and Thai trials, where the frontal armor of...
  5. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    Which is exactly what I said, the former method is still somewhat feasible down the line for the VT4, the latter is not. The ammo is not stored in the turret, it’s stored in the hull.
  6. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    An abrams type design just doesn’t work for the PA, because 4 man crews lead to much larger tanks, larger engines, more fuel consumption, so on. US can handle the logistical issues that come with an abrams, Pakistan cannot. It’s significantly harder to entirely isolate ammo from the crew in a...
  7. iLION12345_1

    MBT AbramsX Tank- Pictures & Video's

    It doesn’t matter how good the T14 is if Russia cannot produce them anyways. The T-14 might have an inherently base better design, simply because the Abrams as a base design is much older, but what they’re managing to pull out of the tank performance wise goes to show how much forward thinking...
  8. iLION12345_1

    MBT 3000/ Al Haider reviews, etc.

    Because they’re producing it locally. And yes the PA VT-4s have tons of changes from the regular export ones. Keep in mind the first hundred + tanks are directly being delivered by China, they are Haider too. So will be the ones assembled and then eventually produced in Pakistan.
  9. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    Again, not happening, go design an entirely new tank if you want that, we don’t have the funds or the R&D for it, and China doesn’t have a need or an interest for it (yet). VT-4 is already outperforming any other MBT in South Asia by a massive margin, of course the lead needs to be built up...
  10. iLION12345_1

    T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

    Not happening, not possible to do either. The auto-loader is not the problem. APS is a better solution and PA is already working on that. Haider (not Al-Haider) is what we already see in the PA, the VT4s. No more changes for now or the near future, but we will see upgrades to them eventually as...
  11. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan should buy this Tank

    Frankly i disagree, there are better options on the market, I vote for Arjun MK-1A limited edition with sunroof and cruise control, much better tank.
  12. iLION12345_1

    Hamza 6x6 is being procured by the Pakistan Army.

    I don’t like cavaliers track record of making claims. I’ll believe it when I hear it from the other side.
  13. iLION12345_1

    Hamza 6x6 is being procured by the Pakistan Army.

    Ghareeb Rozi Roti kamate hue in this thread* Hold your horses for just a little longer, and we’ll know for sure. Last I heard it was still in trials. Could be the situation has changed now.
  14. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    I think just thickness doesn’t count for a new type. VT4 turret has different thicknesses of FYIV. If they just made FYIV thicker and put it on there that’s still FYIV, if they’ve changed the chemical characteristics, makeup, plates etc to improve it then we can consider it FYV or something...
  15. iLION12345_1

    IDEAS-2022 - Updates & Discussions

    Not just turret. Hull armor is increased too. Turret clearly has composite armor now, before it was just steel reshaping plates. If they decide to put ERA on this, it might even be somewhat decent at protection, something that was always my biggest gripe with the AZ apart from crew ergonomics...
  16. iLION12345_1

    IDEAS-2022 - Updates & Discussions

    That AZ is not our usual AZ, looks like HITs been busy with those too :)
  17. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    It has a 1200HP engine, this is confirmed news, there is no source to back up the claim that it has 1500HP. I too believed that at the start but I’ve personally confirmed it with HIT. You can technically tune the engine to make 1500HP if you want, or de-tune it to 1000, but the tuning is done so...
  18. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    What is FY-V? I don’t think there is any such thing officially. Visually Type 99A is also using FY-IV. FY-IV is the best Chinese ERA offered for export, and the claimed figures are pretty believable so I don’t doubt them. FY-IV is not exactly next-Gen ERA like the latest Russian stuff, the...
  19. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    PA VT4s have 1200HP engine like all VT-4s, 1500HP was a myth. 1200 is more than enough for it to carry side-ERA. Even if it’s FY4 and not FY2, but regardless, it will slow the tank down a bit, any weight will. AK protection level has been the same since it was introduced in 2001, it has not...
  20. iLION12345_1

    Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

    Note FY2 ERA on the brochure, it’s the older VT-4. PAs VT-4s had FY4 before it was even offered for export. The difference between FY4 and FY2 is as they say “Zameen Asman Ka farq” That being said, VT-4 has enough power to be equipped with Side ERA, and PA can opt to equip them at any moment...
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