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We don’t know if 30 were retired, that was just an assumption, and if they were retired, then what about them? If we can’t keep them running, how can Ukraine? Pakistan can currently produce more spares and has more expertise in UDs than Ukraine does I’d say, their tank industry has nearly just...

Except most of it is not in place, Pakistan does not produce VT4 locally yet, only assembly. China cannot build 320 VT4s overnight (when was the VT4 deal signed originally? And how many VT4s have been delivered so far? At chinas already high delivery rate, it would take nearly 4 years to replace...

Sure, ignore alllllll the logistical and geopolitical issues with that excellent plan and everyone really is a winner.

Thailand more likely.

Not from Serbia no, those were just rumors. Pakistan did however buy T54As and T55s from the USSR in the late 60s, though those are long retired now.

Currently Pakistan has enough spares to run the AK and UD fleets for a good amount of time. Especially since 110 AK1 orders were canceled and their power plants might already be delivered (though don’t take that as fact, I’ve yet to confirm it). However HIT is actively working on trying to...

Mass production where? In Pakistan? Has started but not at full capacity yet, many more parts will be localized slowly. Currently there are more VT4s being assembled in CKD form at HIT. required dates exist, but they are flexible, depends on economic situation. If the money keeps coming, HIT...

Yes exactly, because of the situation in Ukraine and the inherent complexity of these machines, it is much much easier to keep a Type 69 running than a T80UD, we can produce spares for these (and we have enough spares to fix the things we cannot produce), but it’s not worth using them on these...

Me: China has very advanced industry and is making the right decision by not wasting money on tanks it does not need. You: Wow you are so anti-china Brother I am literally praising China not insulting it, i am sorry if I cannot explain that to you in a better way.

There’s enough evidence on the internet if you look with your eyes and not with your emotional patriotism. Otherwise you can go read the endless threads on this forum too, since I haven’t had to explain this to you before unlike some people on this forum. I’ll say it once more: 1. Cars are not...

That’s just what I said. Though I would say, PA might not be doing better causalities-wise, but when the nation, politics and geopolitics were behind them. Their gains were, far more substantial than NATO (I’m talking 2009-2019), now not so more, so we go downhill again.

That’s the problem with you, you want to convey the right message but use all the wrong ways. I totally agree with you, the “Invincible army” myth needs to die and the situation with all these recent terrorist attacks and how easily they are happening is concerning, it’s also concerning the...

Which is likely it’s final order, and has only seen a total of 1 tank delivered so far, at least publicly. That order should have been done over a year ago if they were being produced at even half the capacity of the Indian factory. So where are they? Where is the relation between a car and a...

And these are the people Pakistanis were so happily supporting when they took over Afghanistan, they laughed at the people who said this wasn’t a good thing. Lol.

Regardless of how messily this entire situation was handled and my opinion on it, you’re talking to a person who was literally mentioning K/D ratios in real life AT missions, that’s how seriously he views this stuff. It’s all a video game to these people, that with little to no knowledge of how...

BM42 is still obsolete and there is no concrete source of IWI APFSDS in service in IA, just rumors that come and go every so often. According to the Indian army themselves, as late as mid 2019, the standard ammo was BM42. Which is again, obsolete. The Contract awarded to OSHO corp was in early...

I admit the Al-Zarrar is not good by any standards, but Something can’t be better than the Al-Zarrar when firing BM13 or BM42, no matter how much technology you put into it. Pakistans obsolete Type 59s have ammo with better penetration characteristics than the BM13s T72s often carry in the IA...

Al Khalid has Commanders independent panoramic sight, hunter killer capability, automatic target tracking, Air conditioning, auxiliary power unit, muzzle reference system, anti-thermal paint coatings, better ammo storage, a 24 KM/H reverse speed (4 KM/H in the T90S), longer engagement ranges and...

Short answer: generally, Yes. Long answer: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/t90-compared-with-al-khalid.375807/post-13682452 (Post #318) And https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-armys-vt-4-main-battle-tank-updates-discussions.537585/post-13062021 (Post 2669) No. No tank in either nation has...

Russian tanks have better metallurgy and design than Chinese tanks, definitely. But they doesn’t mean modern Chinese tanks are bad or anything. I would easily say the best Russian tanks are much better than the best Chinese tanks, but that’s not our problem, because india does not use the best...