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His re-election seems unlikely because of worsening economy, he has the miliatary capabilities but not the funds so he chooses the cheaper and slower way. Thats what i think.

Deliveries began in august, Israeli oepration happened in september, i hardly think those were operational yet.

Ok marked, tell me when that happens.

''You can not be independent if you are in US alliance.'' That sentence alone kills any will to continue this conversation. You are more likely to loose your independence just by being Russias neighbor... Any state east of Germany only joined NATO because of Soviets and Russia to begin with...

The key point is the word Soviet not Russian, all those eastern European states are independent non Russian nations and still have fresh memory of Russian rule, if they think they need NATO protection against Russian agression then they are free to join any alliance they want its non of your...

Not to US Borders but to Europes, Russia clearly has an expanditory policy with Putin. You believe in whatever suits you better anyways, makes it easier to claim the moral high ground i guess.

Like what? :what:

You wont see them in this thread as usual. :lol:

Lol nice try, meanwhile Russia is establishing itself on NATO's eastern and southern flanks. You think Russians like Muslim? Lol Russians are the biggest Muslim butcherers out there kiddo. :lol: This is what Russians write on the wall of Mosque in Libya:

I dont believe any of those claims anymore, Turkish justice became a joke, one day some are is putchists then they are not and then others are gülenists and then the supposed putchists are traitors again. A huge circus nothing else, anyone who is persona non grata can be declared terrorist...

Why are there foreign companies in strateic sectors like telecommunication in the first place?

You have issues, get off those conspiracy theories a little bit, they have eaten your brain cells away.

France is helpin Russia to establish itself on NATO's southern flank, i wonder if there will be any sanctions because of this like Turkey got because of S-400.

Lol, now that is a copy. :rofl: You mullahs should produce some more complex conspiracy theories, this one is really cheap and predictable. But then again you only fool simpletons so its good enough i guess.

Refugee camp? Lol those are known pkk camp, what are the refugees doing on top of a mountain to begin with? :lol:

You guys care about Yemen first, or go and build sand island and km high skyskrapers, leave the art of war to Turks.

Heron and TB-2 are worlds apart, they only vaguely have the same shape. Neither is Heron the first Twin boom aircraft either. That Russian analysis sucks just like their drone and AD industry. :lol:

Thats a price too high for a useless legitimacy to ne honest, we already paid a high price for that ''legitimacy'' throught erdogans politics.

Thats Russian strategy whenver there is a conflict, Afghanistan, Chechenya, Syria and now Libya. Countless Afghan Children either killed or heavily injured by Russian toy mines that have been deployed indiscrimintely from planes. To protect their gas deal in Eastern Med, thats the only reason...