There's no need. This matter was laid to rest definitively in the 8th century for 90% of Pakistanis by Imam Abu Hanifa himself in very explicit and undisputed terms. There's more than a thousand years worth of rulings after him by hundreds of scholars who are considered 'The Authorities' on...
Well then I guess the Prophet (S.A.W) himself and Allah (S.W.T) both had it wrong, nauzubillah. Qmjd, the sipah salar of Islam, clearly knows better.
@Qmjd look! Everyone now believes that you are a pious and righteous Muslim.
@Jf-17 block 3 where'd you go? You promised,
"Tell me mister moderator which Imam from Sunni Islam from the 4 schools of fiqh consider Ismailis Muslim. If you can tell me the imam name and send link to them saying it I will admit I was wrong"...
So you will not admit that you are wrong even...
Either you are illiterate and cannot read what you have been given or, as I know to be the actual case, you are just another lying conniving fitnah peddler who has nothing to do with Islam and only uses it to further his own insecure agenda.
I don't need to try anything. The final statement of the entire conference included Ismailis under the official definition of who Muslims are. The Agha Khan was also invited by the gathering to speak at the conference.
@Jf-17 block 3 I'll give it here as well.
https://www.liquisearch.com/ismailism/inclusion_in_amman_message_and_islamic_ummah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message
Let's see how much you adhere to the principles your Deen and your Prophet (S.A.W) teach you.
I am going to unblock you from that thread. Let's see how much integrity and care for the faith you actually have.
Bonus questions: Who came first? Twelver Shia or Ismalis? Do you know who the Twelver Shia are?
I'll give you 200 from across the 5 major schools of Islamic Jurisprudence representing all the Muslim countries in the world in a single sitting.
https://www.liquisearch.com/ismailism/inclusion_in_amman_message_and_islamic_ummah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message
Ironic then how there is only you and your one cohort here spreading "hatred amongst us Muslims".
Those specific "Shias" also believe that you are non-Muslim, and you believe those "Shias" are non-Muslim. You also do not speak for Sunnis, who do not consider Ismailis as non-Muslim. Then your...
So because someone else acts like a moron, we should as well? Apart from the fact that his statement clearly also offends thousands of Pakistani Hindus?
I don't know what qualifications you want from the man. The way "Doctor Saab" conducted himself on live TV shows that he is a petty little imbecile who pretends to be way more than he actually is. So, perfectly qualified for a Pakistani government position.
Shoaib reacted too maturely.
The Prophet (S.A.W) never went to Abyssinia.
The Abyssinian kingdom being Christian was not "Habasha Kuffar Kingdom". This is Islam 101, please don't spread misinformation. There is no such thing as "Kuffar of Ahlu Ketab", fhs.
That is not what it means.
I assure you brother, a utopian future is not a Pakistani worry. A dystopian future is knocking on the door though.
The crime of upsetting the infantile sensibilities of the pretentious +200 million? If there's any other please let me know.
Thanks. And in my opinion you wholly deserve that...
You see the state we are in? You suggest a kid be hanged for nothing more than a handful of pictures he took while dressed up like a cartoon in front of the Quiad's portrait and I need to explain why you got the negative rating.
Malik Riaz gets done what he does because he makes money off getting it done. Where he makes money off it not being done it does not get done. He's running a business for himself. Please don't elect him as our future prime minister.
Clearly this too was faked. Apart from the fact that she was asking for it by being born a woman.
Certain cities? Yesterday it was the "village types". Islamic values? The "fahash kafir" seems to have more of them then. Don't kid yourself, you're all the same and it all has to do with you...