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The best way to describe Pakistan's defence establishment is a collection of groups of 5-10 people that are trying to impress their bosses and nothing else. Some guy will say to his boss "Sar we will make A", and he'll order 5 guys under him, who will go around the planet telling everyone we're...

The assembly line is top notch. Comparable to the top manufacturers like Boeing and Lockheed. TA makes a point to mimic the best practices from around the world and they do a very good job at it. This is now obvious for everyone to see. The issues with TFX initial production are teething...

Proud to have touched this prototype.

As a thumb rule I take everything NASTP says and assume 20% of that is true lol. I have made this rule after looking at all these public things they say and then having the privilege to see what they are actually doing. For starters this UAV is very overweight. Furthermore, it has some serious...

Qaswa is an AWC project.

Of Temel Kotil? :)

No I don't have a guest list of ideas 2022 lol. Come on. I don't know who is visiting or not visiting. But I know for a fact that Temel Kotil is not visiting. But I'm just some guy on the internet that you DO NOT have to believe. Absolutely free to ignore me. Yeah super secret right. Temel...

The program is very much dead. The above tweet is absolutely fake news because Temel Kotil is not even visiting IDEAS2022. To add to what @dBSPL is saying there's a strong possibility that Pakistan will buy into the TFX (MMU) program on a small level. But to call it a joint program is...

He's not even attending. Also, his name isn't Kotli lol.

@arslank03 Are they reselling Chinese products? Seem's pretty unlikely that they are able to make these privately in Pakistan.

So army started NSTP at NUST H-12 right? NASTP is PAF's attempt to one-up the army on that. So far they have a lot of plans for buildings and centers, but I haven't seen any actual output. PAF plans to put all of its disparate R&D programs (like AvRID, AvDI, CENTAIC) under one roof - like a PAF...

for starters the program is dead. It was overweight, Frankenstein of a thing, that was not going to compete with anything available on the market. It would underperform against every competitor.

I think this is some small version. I've seen the actual thing. It's that big thing we saw in the pictures. A disappointing system nonetheless.

Yup. Don't know about game-like visuals but training system, yes.

Didn't join. Founded. And the company is inside NUST. I don't how sustainable it is.

In a way it is a great example too. They started out in the 80s as an automotive manufacturer - specifically a CNC parts manufacturer - and ventured into UAVs in the 2000s. We have several companies like the Baykar of the 80s - Ravi autos or millat tractors for example. But something prevents...

When I was a teenager I thought what you have said. But now I've seen what actually happens. Lots and lots of people have tried and are trying. Unfortunately, the military holds a tight monopolistic grip on anything remotely military. You try to do anything without the military's bleassing and...

A theory that I heard from some of those people today: They are making repellent policies by design (there have been new and increasingly stupid policies) in an effort to cut the number of employees. Massive numbers of resignations are being received and accepted apparently.

As @Bilal Khan (Quwa) has said, this is sort of looking at the issue backwards. The issue isn't JF17. It is the lack of industry. Most attempts to indigenize components will fall flat because you simply will not have the most basic of inputs and the PAF has no appetite for funding and waiting...

Ok you are welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.