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It started probably before Ayyub even. Prettt sure they were behind assassination of Liaquat Ali.

I think y’all are missing the forest for the trees. The recent trend has been for the establishment darlings, i.e. Billo Rani’s PPP party to fill the positions in all the universities and colleges with their PPP lackeys. The decline in educational institutions is a given. Forget urban Sindh...

Can you provide a reference? This is a curious fact.

To be clear, I think the establishment sees the country and all of its provinces like colonies. Punjab included. But they may give some slightly beneficial policies to Punjabi elites as that is their primary base.

It is strange to think that other people will remember what you say better than you yourself. The first posts I made about the CSS /quotas have nothing to do with Punjab. I never state that the quotas were there to benefit Punjab. Just that they hurt Muhajirs and Bengalis. Which they do. Post...

Dude I don’t understand how you are making this point. First, the muhajjirs never wanted quotas. We didn’t need them. We represented the educated population. 15% of the quota in 1948 was given to those without domicile. These included the east Punjabis that migrated. Only 2% was reserved for...

The book that the article quoted- as far up as I could go without having to pay- says the following- it is pretty clear this is a reference to muhajjir bureaucrats. Not to non-Muhajir Punjabis. The whole paragraph is in reference to muhajirs and how they dominated the nascent bureaucracy in...

Yeah definitely true most likely. But I think it’s also perverted now because of ideology- especially that hateful neo-Marxist crap that Bhutto made so popular. That’s also lead to increase in racism probably.

You too kind sir

Also this isn’t the original source. Apparently this is copied from a book. Where the book points to is not clear. The orginal source is from this book “Asian Bureaucratic Traditions Emergent from the British Imperial Tradition” which have to pay to access. Nope. The quota system- how it was...

Is it this? https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/36353 This only supports what I said. That muhajjirs were over represented. It doesn’t talk about how the quotas affected muhajjirs- but at no point apparently we’re there less than 33% of the bureacracy. No reference to the supposed 47% again...

Cite your source kind sir. We are going around in circles it seems. Your reference to the 47% included.

And if someone’s argument rests on the idea that Muhajjirs were advantaged by increasing the merit allocation- what does it say about what their numbers would be if everything would be merit based, i.e. before 1948, before quotas were introduced and every posting was supposedly merit based?

You haven’t quoted the primary source- just an article that makes a point in passing. In legal terms, we would call this prejudicial. Here is the original source:- “For example, the largest Mohajirs residential area was Karachi in Sindh Province with 1.5 percent of population received two...

agreed. So wouldn’t you also logically agree that taasub ki politics, aka, jaag punjabi jaag, humara para likha Punjab party, aka N league is also a cancer to Pakistan. Okay let’s get the facts straight. I too am curious where you found this 47% number. Can you please post a source if you have...

You haven’t posted a single relevant fact or figure quite literally. All you have posted are opinions. My point stands which I have proven with facts and figures- that the quota system was enforced to disadvantage muhajjirs and Bengalis. And to privilege primarily Punjabis. Anyways, coming...

You are making several logical fallacies. First, in 1948, the quotas were 2% for Karachi and 15% for those with no domicile. As people got domiciled, they would not qualify for the 15%, so it was there in the beginning only to account for how many muhajjirs were already part of the bureacracy...

First Karachi was limited to 2%. Second while, those without domicile were at 15%, once they settled in Karachi, they would no longer qualify for the 15%, that you so unreasonably assume they would get. This was so they could pretend that they were going to be given something when in fact it was...

Look at the numbers before the quotas - in 1946/1947, practically the entire bureaucracy was muhajjir and Bengali. The quotas reduced the proportion. They were there to benefit the Punjabis and others at expense of Muhajjirs and Bengalis.

And if you are talking about quota system in 1948, even that was done to limit Muhajjirs and Bengalis who were dominating the bureaucracy. Muhajjirs more so than others were limited to no more than 17% if you include those with no domicile and Karachi. The Punjabis were favored at the expense of...