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    Imported Prime Minister Shehbaz says, "IMF giving tough time to finance minister, team during talks"

    I like Miftah- he is not the smartest cookie as far as cookies we have seen in govt in the last two decades or so. You should see what he said on muzzamil podcast before assuming office. About how to adequately price electricity. Tells you all you need to know about his convictions in...
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    Pakistan's identity crisis..a very good speech by a pakistani

    I don’t really care what (?a Chinese?) has to say bout it. Or are you an Indian? Don’t care. Pakistan fully allows dual citizenship as a matter of law. You’ll find that true for countries that have a civic nationalism model.
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    Pakistan's identity crisis..a very good speech by a pakistani

    Why the hell would I care what others thought? The founders of this country were clear on what we were supposed to be. To all our leftist idiots, they should go read the document they came up with. It’s called the objectives resolution. Get it? The objective of forming Pakistan. Jinnah selected...
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    Pakistan's identity crisis..a very good speech by a pakistani

    This is exactly right. Listening to these neo-marxists has always been a bad idea.
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    Imported Prime Minister Shehbaz says, "IMF giving tough time to finance minister, team during talks"

    You read Dawn I take it. Don’t put too much cred on people that write editorials for it. The others don’t because it doesn’t fit in with Dawn editorial opinions. His PhD is from a good university. Doesn’t mean much. I have a PhD from a good university. Idiots, especially those of rich kids...
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    Imported Prime Minister Shehbaz says, "IMF giving tough time to finance minister, team during talks"

    There were some smart people in the PTI govt. Moeed Yusuf, Hammad Azhar, Ishrat Hussain and Sania Nishtar. Asad Umar handled Covid well with establishment cooperation. this is not false either. The like of Zardari are surely very intelligent. Not the technical type that would benefit he country...
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    It's now or never situation again

    Get lost bharati. Don’t know why you are butting in here anyways.
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    Irfan Baloch Has Said Goodbye !!

    Sad to see senior members leave. PDF loses when that happens. He was an okay guy. I do think that moderators need to be more neutral here though. To be honest, I would even be up if we created some software and asked chat GPT to moderate for us (perfect neutrality).
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    It's now or never situation again

    The first line of defense would have been to have effective and competent governance in those areas. With focus of service delivery. This would have engendered patriotism and loyalty. The second and last line of defense would have been the military operation like zarb-e-azab. This should have...
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    It's now or never situation again

    This is one thing I have to agree with over here. Also establishment blue eyed boy was literally telling taliban that it’s okay if you bomb KP and Karachi, just don’t come to Lahore. The sentiment has some basis in reality. Our agencies need to prosecute people fairly. This is true too. Just...
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    Pakistani FM Hina Rabbani avoids Bangladeshi FM Momen’s call to seek apology for 1971 genocide at Colombo

    Bangladesh should apologize for the ethnic genocide against Biharis. If it wants Pakistan to apologize, they Too must apologize.
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    Pakistan lost somewhere...

    Musharraf was the GOAT. I blame Kiyani. We would have done well if we had continued with Musharraf until now and then handed the reins off to a democratic setup. Like South Korea’s Park, etc. the 15 years after him have been a disaster.
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    It's now or never situation again

    No fair enough. But couldn’t we have these protests happen under some sort of nationalist movement rather than an ethnic nationalist one? Why do the protests have to happen under the flag of ethnicity as opposed to justice or religion or something else?
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    It's now or never situation again

    Ethnic nationalism is disgusting, low IQ and jahil type of mentality. Having said that, the establishment has truly screwed up the situation. Course correction should have happened atleast months ago. This reminds me of when Yahya said I know east Pakistan better than the Bengalis do...
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    PAKISTAN Closer to COLLAPSE as Cash & Fuel Run Out & National Electricity Blackout after Shutdown

    I think one thing that people need to understand is that apart from Islam and the nation, there are no holy cows. IK is not a holy cow either. We can all criticize IK at our hearts desire. But this means that you must be open to hearing criticism directed against the army as well. The army is...
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    PAKISTAN Closer to COLLAPSE as Cash & Fuel Run Out & National Electricity Blackout after Shutdown

    Okay this is interesting- I agree with what you have said more or less about the economy. Dar has destroyed the economy. And he is clearly completely incompetent. Don’t really think anyone disagrees with this at this point. But this is not to say that Tareen for example was more than only semi...
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    Excellent IMF clause : Federal govt servants must disclose assets to open bank accounts

    1,2 are good. 3 needs to be done for gas and oil prices so that they match international prices. If we can get cheap gas or oil from Russia that will also work. As far as electricity goes, at this point, just nationalize the IPPs. That would be a good type of default where we would void...
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    Is this the end of Pakistan? Have the colonial traitors sold the nation out?

    It’s the worst of times - it’s also the best of times. A positive of the last year is that we now know exactly what is up. No one hiding behind veils. Also unlike earlier times, we actually have a nationalist party that is semi competent. Not ethnic or a regional party like before. Not corrupt.
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    Spare us Taliban brothers ..CM current PM

    This is exactly the sort of rhetoric that feeds into seperatist Pashtun movements. Shahbaz should be jailed if for nothing else than this.
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    Unironically: Could declaring Sharia Law in Pakistan solve it's insurgency problem?

    Islam has had many liberal-esque ideas. But beyond that, in the scholastic sense, you have liberally inclined and otherwise ideas as well. Liberal, technically, only makes sense from the perspective of European politics. We don’t really come from that tradition so it doesn’t make sense...
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