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How many SSBN's India has?? Now try and look at leased submarine from that angle....b/w Nuclear deterrence is just not about carrying Ballistic missiles...the key point is the ability to avoid detection and deliver the payload...so vintage submarines are equally a bad ploy...however unlike some...

finally....hopefully the first tranche reached boots on ground in no time...

Now that is comical....A vintage missile carrying ballistic missile can deter a blue water navy which has assets almost equal to rest of the world combined however a nuclear sub can't deter sh1t because it is a leased one??

Actually if you had any idea of what unarmed drones can do...you would not make a fool of yourself...the way you are doing here...however probability of that would be 10 times less than us finding flying cows in Mars...similarly you have zero clue on what good is a leased nuclear sub.....

You have tons of submarines and a decent number of them, unfortunately, vintage...whom are you deterring?? I mean any specific reason for deploying such obsolete weaponry when you have sh1t loads of money?? Once you will answer that..then you will get it ...whom we are deterring and with what!!

interesting thoughts...can u plz throw some more light here?

F16 and 5th generation fighters are poles apart...so didn't look like a case..Jaitley going in for another round of discussion might be a factor...

100% agreement here....though out of blue we got MP......expecting similar thing here....

guys any links ot watch this match plz?? fortunately seems like this match with have the pakistan india drama :)

????????? what?? Since when are we hearing about this F-16 production line in India?? Let's keep trump/obama out of this....We did reject F-16 in MMRCA and went in for French...If we go for F-16 now...it would have nothing to do with Obama/Trump/any tom dick harry.....simple.. Now production...

@Indian Members Plz stop shooting the messenger...irrespective of the fact that message is shared due to low class pathetic thought process...in the end who cares about motives...read it and move on..

well such threads are rare....and may i dare say - 9 pages of celebrating india success without a single troll has never happened before...Like ISRO, did PDF created history as well :D.... Congrats to ISRO...luv ya!!

time has come PCB should issue an official Thank You note to Indian Govt...as their refusal to play in a bilateral series is saving Pakistan team a$$....i mean what a terrible performance...Indian Pakistan matches in such leagues are always full of drama...with killer spirits bringing the best...

So now Air defenses are capable of preventing Majority of missiles?? Sometimes i get confused because it seems like Air defenses looses their virility with change of flags... anyways on topic...Himalayas are a very potent boundary irrespective of how good infra is(either side)...so a war there...

and why can't you?? is this only specific to certain countries...?

i think India is not utilizing the water....

No-one is falling back on nuclear front...Unlike your all weather friends we do have no first use policy..right?? Now being a think tank...you should know that US has atleast 6-8 times more nukes than you guys and i am not going into yield at all....however larger questions is does that make a...

In geo-politics you don't yield an inch without getting something in back...they have the power to block so they block...and secondly don't undermine China/Pak nexus...

China and Pakistan will benefit...primarily China...and that is India's benefit :lol: ...one has to be moron to not get such a simple thing...:D

Actually your post is at the level of 3 year old...the point is not about disputed territory or not...point is about your core issues...China makes lot of fuss on South China sea as welll...and there is not even a dispute on that front...everyone knows china is behaving like a retard there...yet...