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they knew against Israel , NATO wouldn't support them ...

I won't believe it till it fly and then I won't give a shit about it till it get mass produce and then I won't count on it till it get used with proper weapons ...

shahed 285 look like Shahed 216 design is based on both ,Shahed 285 and upgraded version of Cobra ( Toofan 2 ) .

where were turks when last year ISIS was butchering Turkmen in Iraq !? turks are hypocrite even in their racism ...

guess what , you are one of these dumb sheep !!!

shooting down a clueless bomber and then hiding behind NATO is not act of courage ....

Sunni Scholars are not reliable source because they are biased .... we have our ways of proven the correctness of an Hadith and IMO it it more logical than yours .... your second paragraph was an old tactic used by Sunnis : " Shia don't believe in quran , they are Kaffir and we shouldn't...

except Quran , there is no 100% "Correct" Book for us .... actually we are cautious with our Hadith books as well , while we consider writer of those books as good and faithful men ... you are considering your Hadith books as "Correct" books , so we just using it in debate with you while we...

Turkey shot down a Russian fighter and first thing they said was " We are in NATO " ... this is not act of power , this is act of cowardice ...

so , that why they didn't use any Chef and Fillers !?

you know by doing this , Russia can establish no fly zone in north of Syria for Turkey fighters !? and then Kurds will have free run in north of Syria and strengthen their position .... the Sultan didn't think about consequences .... anyway a question from turkish member : in Islamic era ...

Iranian members of this site have different views in everything , we are not acting like horde and we don't support every action of our government just because we are IRANIAN ... but yeah , majority of Iranian hate Takfeeri and Salafi terrorists although some of member really don't like Assad...

when you support a stupid and unnecessary action and all of you support it , then it will makes you fools ... you still have your tribal mentality ...

so ,do you are saying that Erdoga isn't Official member of Turkey gov !?

When you are training and arming and arm group , you have control over it and you are responsible for it action .... and for God sake , you are doing it Officially ... so for rest of world it is like this : Turkey shot down a Russia fighter over Syria and then her troops execute Russian pilots...

Erdogan officially said that Turkey is supporting Turkmen arms group in north of Syria ... there is no way you can deny it ...

first you shot down the fighter jet and then your beloved so called Turkmen Rebel attacked rescue Helicopter and killed pilots .... look like these Turkmen group was waiting for this .... and for your knowledge , this Turkmen are OFFICIALLY supported by Turkey government ... this was bold...

They was waiting for this moment ... and base of NATO immediate reaction , I assume this incident was planned before hand ...

Russians won't do much things ...

When I said this kind of things !? why you are acting like a 5 year old spoiled girl !?