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It did look like a maneuver, what else does it look like to you? The video shows him completing a turn and then ascending to perform a loop. Upon coming down, the aircraft did not recover sufficiently and crashed.

Dumb of you to place the blame squarely on the chief's shoulders. 23rd March parade and flypast is a long established Pakistani tradition and is dictated more by political considerations than by the whims of the air chief. Furthermore, looking at stats may have caused the authorities to not err...

Exactly, it is perfectly all right to respectfully debate how it could have happened but second-guessing the pilot's state of mind (considering his fine professional caliber) is a cuntish move. We must take great care to be descriptive rather than prescriptive. As for the Indians, let them bark...

Could be hubris post 27th Feb, could be insufficient preparation, could be a malfunction, could be a case of GLOC, and so on, and so forth. The hows and whys will be revealed after the investigation. For now, while it is entirely acceptable to respectfully debate how something like this...

All lessons in fighter aviation have been written in blood. That is an inescapable fact. The lesson could be specific to one community or one learned by all aviators, but it is written in blood. And I am confident the PAF will try to learn from this tragic loss.

I doubt the pilot had much time. Depending on speed, a jet can go from 400 feet to the ground in about 3 seconds. It is highly likely that the pilot had little time to diagnose the problem and react to it. I'm only speculating and I await the results of the investigation.

Please be respectful in situations like these. There will be plenty of time for armchair fighter pilots and aviation "experts" on this page to describe what the pilot could have done better, and you are more than welcome to participate. For now, however, please be civil and pray for the pilot.

Could also be a stall due to malfunctioning equipment, or some bird strike, or a collision with some other obstruction not seen in the video. All we can do now is wait for an inquiry. I hope the news of the pilot's shahadat is disproved but the chances of that happening look very small now...

The evidence we have so far points to the opposite. No ejection was seen but the two videos posted were taken from quite a distance so I sincerely hope the pilot was able to punch out in time. Thus far, we have no confirmation on the pilot's status, so do keep him in your prayers but try not to...

All we have is speculation at this point. Still waiting on confirmation from the proper channels. From a purely visual perspective, the plane looked like it was skimming treetops as seen in the two previously posted videos. So far, no ejection has been seen and I honestly can't blame the pilot...

No hate from my side but can you imagine flying cars anywhere in the subcontinent? If they don't get tangled on power lines, they'll either be dragging along underwear hung to dry outside or hitting crows left, right and centre. And the traffic conditions wouldn't change either: imagine having...

You are correct with regards to JF-17 being (relatively) under-powered, but assuming that the future of aerial skirmishes in the Subcontinent lies entirely in the BVR domain, I don't see how that variable can't be offset by other variables such as swarm tactics, diversions, and radar jamming...

The escalation ladder needs to be maintained for a reason. Any attempts by us to occupy territory would break the current status quo and put the onus on India to retaliate in a similar manner. If India uses heavy artillery, we use heavy artillery; if India uses jets and crosses the border, we...

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Bohat hansi ai. Mubarak ho aap ko.

Just because he is making a logical assumption based on India's experiences against Pakistan, it does not mean he is a supporter of "injuns." Grow up.

The truth is that you guys didn't shoot down shit, other than a MI-17.

How did this journalist "source" of yours know this, then? Was he present in the room with Abhinandan and his superiors?

Please give us your source for this alleged encounter between Abhinandan and his superiors. I believe that India had no way of shooting down a F16 but don't make up dialogues that may not have happened. Is this what passes for evidence in PDF?

Of course, they did refer to 'panicked PAF pilots' who broke military codespeak for Punjabi upon hearing of the arrival of Mig 21s. Can't expect an Indian to be fully appreciative of the facts.