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You accuse Hinduism and "Hindu" cartoons of encouraging violence, and then recommend Tom & Jerry of all things? That thing was banned in my house the day my cousin started throwing knives and forks at others. Apparently, she got inspired by Jerry and the other characters in the cartoon.

Very noble thoughts, but weren't you the same people who were posting anti-'Hindoo' and anti-India comments on the Indian serials thread? Your problem back then was that even grown ups are getting influenced by evil Hindoo serials. And now you pretend it is only because the target audience is...

Why should the temple be involved in this? Get hold of people who did this, and slap civil charges against them for maximum punishment. Does Pakistan have laws against caste discrimination?

My friends visited Bhutan a few years back and they loved it. From their pictures, I think I know why! I thank our military relationship for one thing - their supplies of "Druk" jam and ketchup to defense personnel :D

Only if they conclusively prove that these videos were recorded after the incidents. Otherwise, I don't see NOTW getting banished that easily. Law works in a very non-intuitive way. You cannot fight a two way case in court. In other words, if the prosecution/NOTW loses the case due to...

@Pakistani_Athiest: Anecdotal evidence has definitely tainted these cricketers for life, and that is unfortunate in case they are innocent. It is more comforting to believe "even if a guilty man walks free, never should an innocent man be punished". Again, if the timing of the video cannot be...

I can see where you are going with the video evidence. But this is a pretty serious allegation on the players and simply stating that "Majeed will not risk himself and family" will not be sufficient proof. Also, please share the link to where they conclusively matched the currency numbers.

Exactly, as damning as it may be as anecdotal evidence, the Hameed video has many holes for a court of law: - As Asim says, he does not state anything conclusively. There is a possibility of this being a gupshup session. People always try to relate themselves to major events for their 2 seconds...

Those haven't been established conclusively yet. I want to see undeniable proof before passing judgments. Playing devil's advocate, what if: - The videos were made after the incident - The currencies do not match NOTW's description?

Optimism or pessimism cause people to react out of emotions. What we need is logic to understand the facts, and to understand the players are innocent until proven guilty.

Shouldn't this be merged with the spot fixing thread? Or does this have a different line of discussion?

Betting is the same as speculation in the stock market. Match fixing is like deceptive fraud or undisclosed insider trading. This knowledge will prevent the raised eyebrows.

Words of wisdom :) That feeling is on display on almost all threads on this forum.

Maybe you need to read the article again. "No guilt must be attached until the investigations are complete, and everyone deserves a fair chance to defend themselves. But the process must be thorough and comprehensive." A man of Rahul Dravid's stature does not need such an incident to get...

I am not a lawyer so I have no clue. But I suspect it will be much higher than that. What about their lost reputation and mental trauma? No amount of money can compensate for that. Can someone tell me how lawsuit amounts are calculated?

While I agree with your emotions, your logic is ridiculous. What does Lorgat's Indian origin have anything to do with this? In the cricketing world, India, Pakistan, SL, Bangladesh, South Africa and WI need to be on the same side. It will only be their loss if Pakistan is banned from...

Try to understand my post first. What the ambassador did was to show confidence in their innocence. That is not a legal statement. If he testifies in court stating he knows they are innocent, he will be putting his job and reputation at risk. Then I will agree his confidence is of some...

Sensational NOTW, or is there any truth to all this? Does the NOTW have a physical presence? They seem confident in all their claims...wouldn't expect any brick-and-mortar news agency to be this confident without undeniable proof. Get more cricket match fixing revelations in the News of the...

I think it was unnecessary. What is he apologizing for? If they are guilty, this apology is grossly inadequate. If they are innocent, it is not their fault that this controversy erupted.

This case is being handled pretty poorly. There are just a few pieces of evidence to be examined and those are pretty damning if verified positively. What is taking Scotland Yard so long to analyze the footage and the currency notes? If they manage a confession from the players with this...