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Yes.. I'm very well aware of the anti-Pakistan propaganda in Indian media too. But I don't allow that propaganda to influence my perception about Pakistan. And there lies the difference..

Firstly, I think I mentioned clearly in my first post in this thread that I'm not here to complain. I'm relatively new to this forum and I'm not used to such name-calling. Secondly, I don't know about you, but if someone indulges in pitty name-calling, there is a high probability that even me...

I believe there is no harm in having an active discussion over various sensitive issues like 1965 war and Kashmir dispute in general. But all members should refrain from silly name-calling. If the administrators don't agree with my viewpoint, I would willingly quit this forum.

I don't understand the fascination some people have here with poverty in India. Pakistanis pointing out poor people in India who lack basic needs is laughable. How many of you know that India has a higher per capita income (PPP and nominal) than Pakistan according to World Bank, CIA and IMF...

I'll keep that in mind.

I agree. Even I at times go overboard with the name-calling. But this particular remark was a bit too much.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/26861-1965-indo-pak-war-18.html#post459125

M_Saint posted a message calling me "bloody idiot Indian". Just to know, are such abuses a norm here? I'm not complaining but I just want to know.. as it would give me an insight regarding the mentality of the people here.

Talk about credible, neutral sources! :rofl: None. There were no similarities. Who said there were? India won the battle on both the fronts. Thanks reaffirming the versatility of the Indian armed forces. :toast_sign:

Well.. nope. At least I don't. It was just an assumption.. nothing else. BTW, I just bumped across this article - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/nyregion/19bigcity.html?_r=1&em

:rofl: You are talking as if India and Pakistan didn't fight a single battle on the Western front! Ever heard of Battle of Longewala and Battle of Basantar? No offense.. but you are so ignorant that I didn't even bother to read the rest of your comment. Enjoy!

Yeah... but this is 'Miss Pakistan World' not 'Miss Pakistan'. It is held outside Pakistan and the winner takes part in Miss Tourism Queen International not in Miss Universe or Miss World pageants. And nothing about being ignorant dude. It wasn't as if I was taught in school that Pakistanis...

I've never seen or heard about a Pakistani female participating in Miss Universe and Miss World pageants. Any specific reason? Perhaps another case of religion overshadowing female rights and equality. To those who don't know, Miss Venezuela was crowned as the Miss Universe today -...

Turkey is a model Islamic state - it is a developed country and greatly values religious freedom and human rights. BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Islam in Turkey: Odd one out

And besides, there is a lot difference between the anti-India sentiment in Kashmir and the anti-Pakistan in erstwhile East Pakistan. Firstly, several pro-India political parties like NC and PDP are extremely popular in J&K. Anti-India sentiment in Kashmir valley is not as widespread as...

Hmm.. you mean targeting innocent civilians? :tdown: We fought our war face-to-face with your army, we didn't fight our war against unarmed women and children. Only eunuchs fight or support such a war.

Those were different circumstances. Had Bengalis themselves not revolted against Pakistani government, had Pakistan not killed thousands of innocent civilians, had these people not immigrated in large numbers to India, we would not have intervened in East Pakistan. Had we actually...

Good points! Pakistani PM himself acknowledged that Pakistan lost several more troops than India did and by the time Clinton met with Sharif, only a couple of mountain peaks were under Pakistani control. Therefore, Pakistanis saying that India actually lost the war is laughable. We would have...

Uhm.. in what ways did India forcefully annex Sikkim? It was the Sikkim government which requested India to intervene in its internal affairs after large-scale riots and then a referendum was held in which Sikkimese voted in favor of India. Sikkimese love India. There is no major separatist...

Hmm.. so what is a credible source? US Congress Study - TIME magazine - Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics" - Gertjan Dijkink's "National identity and geopolitical visions" - Dennis Kux's "India and the United States estranged democracies" - Fact...