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@Patriot "He could have written that post without attacking the poster (Muradk)This post clearly shows he has some serious attitude problems". I do not suppose that this is a Military forum, neither am I any ones subordinate in a Military setup. We discuss military, but like free citizens of...

@Muradk , @rehan Are we not going off-topic? MODS please note

@sonicboom Your assessment of this forum is very true. I felt exactly the same when I came here. Traditionally, we only glorify pilots. Of course, the pilots deserve the glory, but we must not forget all those who worked hard, so that the pilot could go on the mission. On the average...

@PAFAce Your suggestions are very thoughtful and practical. Engineers and Scientists are best left alone, and allowed to work independently. For this, all Research and Development can take place in Non-Government, private corporations, who maintain a close coordination with the Armed Forces...

@sonicboom,@PAFAce I am glad to find support from members like you here. I appreciate the guidance that you have provided me regarding the traditions of this forum.

@santro It is true that flying is the main branch of PAF, all all other are supportive. So, at least we should let the support branch people, make it to the top rank in their own support branch, should we not? If the head of PAC is doing a great job, whatever background he is from, there is no...

@santro Yes, aircraft are the most important part of an air force, and so are their operators. There is no air force possible without aircraft and pilots. Does this mean that everything and everyone else it useless? and is not doing an important job ? and should not be given chances to excel in...

@santro Please pardon me if I have misinterpreted your past comments. Your recent comments are very useful and enlightening. An air force has the primary function of Aerial Warfare. Is aerial warfare only done with aircraft? what about the radars, the SAMs, the communication equipment, the...

@rehan Yes, to an extent of removing corruption, and implementing discipline, Ex-Defence personnel should be deployed at places like PIA. It is a real mess. Ex-Defence personnel can handle their professional jobs extremely well. For example PIA can hire retired pilots, engineers...

I am also concerned about the yet unknown dangers, that may come as we try to manipulate genetic structures.

@sergente rehan You are perfectly right. We have to respect our forces, and will die for their respect. But does this mean, we close all doors for improvement?. If there are certain flaws in the management structure of our forces, we should correct them immediately. I would dare to...

@araz As far as PAF is concerned, it should consist of highly professional people, who know their job. Each person should be an expert in his profession, and do only what he is trained for. The top leadership should be open for all, and a solid selection criteria should be made, based on...

@araz You are right. This is an extremely competitive era. To stay ahead in competition, we have to focus on each and every aspect of our management, which includes our forces. Enabling the right people to handle the right job is one of the first steps.

@Patriot I acknowledge my mistake here. I did not know about Sir Murad's background. Thank You for your suggestion ...

@Muradk Sb Now that I know who you are, I feel sorry if I acted disrespectful towards you. It makes me happy to have a real expert on board. Dont you think that : - We must acknowledge that an Air Force is a lot more than fighter flying - As technology is advancing, one person can...

@araz I understand the situation now. I will certainly do the needful. Thank you for your valuable advice.

@Muradk ! Great comments. When you cannot beat someone with logic, beat him with Pathan mode. From the introduction of yourself that you have given, I presume that you are an Ex-Airforce pilot. You are one of the people, whom I am extremely proud of. I salute your heroism, and will be happy...

@MastanKhan Thank you for your valuable comments. You mentioned procurement, which a sore area of the Air Force. And only because Pilots manage it. So we all know where it ends up. We end up buying extremely costly equipment. We end up buying aircraft with no maintenance facilities, and we...

@Muradk Please do not quote examples from history or tradition. Because, historical trends and tradition is exactly what we are trying to change here. If you experienced something in your past, it does not mean the same should happen in the future. People like you want the young generation not...

@ANTIBODY very well said ... ! @santro While I agree with most of your valuable comments, I beg to differ on a few. "An AIR FORCE is built primarily on the core of pilots". Today, an Air Force is built on the core of TECHNOLOGY. And only ONE of the technologies is an aircraft, and a...