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Because..your begging dont work anymore. No country is willing to give u guys any more fighter, because u guys reverse engineer it and copy to make new fighter..wo bhi 3rd class...

The competition is on dear... being on top is not always permanent. Someone will always makes you second.

Let China/ Pakistan have the MMRCA... India is in demand.. Countries are begging india to buy their plane...:cool:

count me the exact 20 sepearatist movements.... then i will count it for pakistan we welcome every stone from you, will return back to you with interest

A country with 20 millions A K 47 distributed all across Civillians..is Pakistan. Now tell me who is inviting destruction and deaths of millions

and when did India think to invade China... will u pls elaborate. And do I need to mention atrocities on Tibet by chinese here, when u dont know about Muslims in India and better not talk about it. India muslims are respected all over the world and thats a fact . Bring in china some...

World's master in copy-cat think that they can become master in technology by stealing it. Hat's of to chiense...................................................

You are true, that Pakistan is acting in a way to bring wounds to India and let it bleed. But Pakistan is not isolated either. if both countries bleed together, pakistan will be the one dead first.

So what quality of products China is selling to Pakistan...is quite clear by what u are saying.

Time to wake up sir, I know LCA worries you and possible a threat to the export of JF17 also. Its time for China to produce some quality things not junks. Do some better R & D and then come up with something good. Good luck.

Nothing more to say...but chinese toys maintain a very bad reputation in Indian market.:yahoo:

Why not within 10-16 years J-40 will be ready.. and then J-60 in another 15 - 24 years..

With due respect, as you are very much senior, I beg to differ with you. J 10 and JF17 are new indeed, but they are copy of mig 21 and F16 respectively. F16 in Pak inventory is the most superior fighter , better than IAF Mig29 and Mirage. But to compare the J10 with F16 Block 52 is...

Is there any post having a discussion on IAF Mig 29 / Mirage (upgraded) Vs JF17 and J10 (PAF & PLAF). What I think is India mirage is heavily upgraded with latest technologies from france and Israel and Indian.

Read my post, I dont think I mentioned Kargil in context of IAF Vs PAF... And what do mean by Indian here, If you dont have the courage to counter other's argument without mentioning nationality better talk sensible. Do you use the same words for new Pakistani member in PDF with the same...

Forget about past.... u guys read and think that you won every fight with India in past including Kargil. IAF dont bother you at all..:woot: .. I think its the worst nightmare for u guys... thats why all the PAF fighters were hovering all over Lahore when there was a talk of a surgical...

Thats true sir, but India at present with the collaboration with Israel, France and Russian defense industries is having better defense euipments than any other country in the subcontinent. This era is different from 1970 when India has only Russia as an ally and Russian defense techs. China...

PAF is no match to IAF, both quantitatively and qualitatively. PLAF is bigger in numeric, but qualitatively poor than IAF, but a match and possible threate to IAF. I heard from somewhere that pakistan is seeking used F16 (1980 model) from other countries to match in number with IAF.. :tup:

Past of Pakistan ...we know( A 64 year old country, very weak economy, good people but bad administrators but a fighting country never loses hope despite losing several times ) Present of Pakistan... its quite visible( Still a very weak economy, good people but bad administrators, still not fed...

If you believe in democracy, then by seeing the comments in here you can easily get whats the opinion of mass about Congress... I hope India falls for us only who equivocal in our thoughts and beliefs and we certainly are many.