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I think that the crashed drone is indeed Wing Loong 1 and it was surely not a test flight. Media also reported that it was on a training mission 'Tarbiyati Parvaaz' and that info can only be given by the ISPR/Relevant authority. And i believe being a UCAV it's not operated by PAF rather under PA.:-)

Sir you don't have to antagonize the US or make it feel that way. You have to defend the case that its not legally right and is more counter productive. Look for a better mutual solution. Use other diplomatic relations to mount pressure on them (KSA, China, Turkey) We have moral basis to support...

Sir i agree with your first part. Regarding zaid hamid, sir i believe he is an idealist, he says everything nice which is good to hear full of hope and enthusiasm but lack any reality or how to turn his ideology into practical form. Exactly why such dual policy regarding the protection of our...

I agree here with the OP views. Seriously, denying US drone attacks and maintaining our sovereignty doesn't mean waging a war against the US. We should play our cards clear and our Govt as well as Military should come with a strict stance against these drone attacks (which are also technically...

ISPR should come with a good response from this. Akhtar Mansur was most likely to be favorable towards the peace talks and also in good views of China and Pak. Now if his death his real then a big blow towards peace progress. More importantly this incident will be another source of embarrassment...

It's time to let the F-16s go and allocate funds to buy a Heavyweight Fighter before shifting our priorities to 5th Generation which is still I believe have about a decade to go. Consider this as the blessings in Disguise. No doubt, F-16 has been our number 1 frontline fighter for all these...

Actually the Indian officials were a little reserved to leak out the complete information. Here's the complete info: Painkillers were made in Lahore Syringes in Karachi Bandages in Peshawar & Pyodine in Quetta Here you go all capital provinces of Pakistan covered. Moral: Whole of Pakistan is...

But i don't think J-16 can be exported due to its similarity of airframe with Su-27 series (even though it may have Chinese sub systems internally) but it export by China will still be objectionable by Russia.

Indeed it was a very tragic loss for the family. May they be patient and be able to cope up with this heavy loss. Can i ask you guys one thing? Why you use the term 'Shaheed' with your martyrs. I often get intrigued on the reason behind using this term by the non-muslims. As it's originated from...

Yes i meant Naval Fighter Air Wing in presence of which, PAF will be able to do its job in a better way and PN can synchronize well with its sea based fleet and employ tactics envisioned to their area of concerns. PAF can supervise the process of inducting a separate fighter air arm and training...

Read my Post# 48 and #51 as well. First PAF have to assess and analyze for what role a twin-engine fighter is required for. There will already be a lot of Multi-roles in PAF in the likes of more capable F-16s and JF-17s. The place where our Air Power seriously lacks is the Naval Air Arm. IMO...

Seriously, i was thinking the same. I hope the basic cost of Aircraft must be at least 20 mil / plane but i don't think the cost includes training. The report mentions just weapons and aircrafts cost?

Yeah but in order to make that configuration work JH-7B minimum order requirement must be at least 4-6 squadrons. And how procurements go these days for our Air force, the biggest latest (external) procurement for PAF was 18 Block 52s.

Okay Smartypants, by your logic US Lockheed Martin developed a 2nd rate platform in the form of F-16 Block 60 version and exported it to UAE only as USAF or USN hasn't inducted the current said platform (as of yet) :lol:

I believe that JH-7B is the most unrestricted and affordable option too. But our Air force have i think changed its strategy after retiring Nanchang A-5 to induct and operate only Multi-role fighter jets no matter they lie in Light, Medium or Heavy Weight Category to save cost and provide best...

I think first we need to analyze why we need a twin-engine fighter? -Yes because it will have extended range and load but for which role? IMO Pakistan requires long range fighter jets to defend our maritime borders and deal with a intimidating IN Air power. JF-17 for that matter will only be...

If you cared to do a little search about the meaning of at par on Google. I'm sure you'd get your answer "An equality in Value OR Standing; a level of equality: The gains and the losses are on a par" So even if JF-17 Block 2 may not have the same 'standings' equivalent to that of F-16 Block...

You've already been replied very effectively from several other members as well. I don't know that you want to prove yourself right or just don't want to comprehend at all what others our trying to make you understand. Let me also try to further simplify you with an Example: Let's assume F-16 as...

Well the Problem which you've highlighted is actually biggest plus point of python being OO Scripting Language. It shortens the overhead and a scale up as being a better High-level language than C++. The lines of code done in C++ is reduced to half the size in python. Another advantage of python...

Basically, the comparison b/w ADA & C++ is not much conclusive. Both have its pros and cons. (Although I do not have practical knowledge of ADA) but C++ is not much antiquated language in comparison to ADA as you make it seem to be. Both were developed around same time frame. Infact C++ was...