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  1. Renegade

    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Poor attempt at humour. Inability to counter point with qualitative argument noted. You got to be kidding me with that. J-10 & Lavi are different platforms. The poor attempt at humour in the earlier statement of you has been more than compensated by this joke. The only reason that Isreal did...
  2. Renegade

    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    1. The not so great accuracy of the Chinese missiles can be confirmed by the scientists of PAEC afterall, all their missiles are based on Chinese designs. The latest plane in the Chinese arsenal the J-10 is based on the Lavi. Ya China is technologically superior than Russia!! The Russians...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    The only thing that the chinese defence industries can produce are clones of weapon systems of other countries. The list is very long. All that talk about Russia wanting China to join the 5th generation fighter programme is nothing but rubbish. Dont know who fed that to you. India and Russia...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Who told you the accuracy of chinese missiles is very good? Ya when you test the media only tells you what the chinese government wants you to hear. You are calling Manmohan Singh corrupt?? Need anything more be said.
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Your ignorance baffels me. The ASBM is not at all a proven technological platform. For the following reasons: 1. The accuracy of Chinese missiles is not good on land itself were the target is static, forget the ocean were the Carrier groups are very mobile. 2. The concept is grandoise in...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Firstly as the discussion was centerd upon spaced based systems, i assumed that by ASBM you were referring to Anti-Satellite Ballistic Missiles. Secondly, the details of the so called ASBM by China are not at all clear so we have no idea of the so called Chinese missiles capabilities. And...
  7. Renegade

    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Russia has got ASBM. I am surprised by your ignorance. That being reason enough, not to take the rest of your argument seriously.
  8. Renegade

    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    If Pakistan could get the HQ-9 (S-300) you would have gotten it long ago, as soon as the Chinese had cloned the system. But since this has not happened till now, given Pakistans weakness in SAM systems & the urgency to upgrade them, there is very less likelyhood of it happening in the future...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    There is no need for India to have pull in Russia vis-a-vis China, as Russia itself sees the rise of China as threat to it in the near future. The Russians sold you quality stuff in the early 90's as they needed cash, there are no such sales happening now. The only euipment being sold now is not...
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    MiG-21 Bison - The Underdog

    You dont seem to making much sense there, atleast to me. We need all our fighter aircraft just not the Mirage 2000 & yeah the Mig-29 is quiet capable of taking on the F-16. Thats precisely why the PAF was very much absent from action during the Kargil conflict. That apart - i thought you...
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    Indian Military Picture Thread

    Most of the soldiers involved in counter insurgency role in in J&K are soldiers from the Rashtriya Rifels, technically speaking they are a para-military force not a part of the Indian Army. Though they are staffed by Officers & Jawans from the IA on deputation. The rules are compartively...
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    MiG-21 Bison - The Underdog

    Most of the Mig crashes are due to defective spare parts. After the collapse of the Soviet Union aircraft spare parts where not readily available & those that were available were of poor standrads. Look at the Mirage-2000 of the IAF it has an excellent safety record, as there was no such...
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    News for Mirage-2000 upgrade

    The Germans themselves have said that the U-214 deal with Pakistan is off. That leaves the Italians, but i am not too sure if they can euqalise the cutting edge tech offered by the French & the German's. Even if they did i am sure Indian pressure will work there as well, the French are better...
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    What is the best way to resist Indian Dominance?

    Posting a couple of links for you. Listen to them carefully & then tell me what you think. Listen to Air Chief Marshal Asghar Kahn & Aasim Sajaad carefully
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    Get some originality kid. I knew China cloned stuff but copying exact statements, has got to be a new high for you guys!! And why am i not surprised. Coudnot resist it could you.
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    Indian SuryaKirans

    @XiNiX Awesome work man!! I am a Fan of your threads. Keepup the good work.
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    What is the best way to resist Indian Dominance?

    This very thought process reflects the insecurity that Pakistan has built in realtion to India. As a professor from LUMS put it "Pakistan is based on a negative ideology i.e anti-Indian", this ideology has been installed in the normal Pakistani by the establishment i.e the PA. Thats precisely...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    If you took your own advice about trolling seriously, you would not have penned this down. Ever heard of the popular saying "practice what you preach". By contridicting yourself, you have shown in what low esteem you hold yourself. Again 'practice what you preach', lets see you restraning...
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    Russia delivers S-300 air-defence batteries to China

    I will take that as a compliment, coming from a man of your standing. Ah i am heart broken, but nevertheless thankful that i am spared competition in a monosyllabic thought process. It is hard when one has to narrow his perspective, squeeze his intellect, compartmentalise his thought &...
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