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i dont see the point in all of these flames, the pak-fa is a prototype and is the 3rd 5th generation fighter in the entire world the production variant is likely to be a LOT different. my point is, no matter what the flames no other fighter can match the pak-fa except for the f-22 and maybe...

5th gen fighter is by my estimates at least 10 years before 1st flight. why? 1 china doesn't have the engine infact noone has an f-22 class engine as of yet or even an f 35 class engine, i dont expect china to have 1 until 2030 the 1st a/c will prolly have a al-41 or something and reverse...

right u are my friend...but i doubt it will be a jr partner to china. pakistan in my opinion is no longer a threat the only threat to India is china's government i say govt. because i've met many people from China and they are very nice and do not want a rivalry. however china's govt is quite...

did any1 understand the "getting ready" part? they cannot do it today but the military's ultimate goal is to fight 2 fronts at once and i believe it is achievable with limited help from American and Russia. basically this means a huge arms buildup and we are seeing the BEGINNING of this this...

actually... 2015 the numbers will be 279 mki 65 mig-29 upg 16 mig-29k and possibly a follow on order for 30 more* 50 m2k upg 40-60 lca** (up to 300 possible) 40-60 mrca*** (up to 200 possible) 120 jaguars 100 bisons 50 mig-27 upg 12 tankers 6 phalcons 6 p8 6 medium range...

well the guy who spoke said a little about the mki's ew capabilities. "drill his brains out with your guns" since the mki is jamming your missiles.

to be honest its all about economics... 1.2 trillion vs 140 billion who buys more?

yes... its engine is a beast 180 kn.... omg that's like 2 ef engines.

^ very true considering the ratio of 150 kills to 1 with conventional [B]American[B] fighters which are considered at least .5 generation ahead of chinese/north korean fighters. i think 90 f-22's are enough to deal with the entire plaaf. oh and i think Israel/Japan might buy the f-22 so dont...

i think u should take India off that list, and maybe even sri lanka they are too close with India physically and will also have very close economic relations with them in the near future since ltte is gone. also nepal depends on Indian ports for their economy i doubt it'll be very close to...

the 1st 2 images are of the mig MFI aka mig 39 which is a technology demonstrator 5th generation a/c for the USSR/Russia. the production image is of the F-22 Raptor, u can clearly see that its an F-22 in the process before what u see in the above posted picture, see the yellow rails...

yea the idiot that said china can destroy entire world with its nukes... dont believe this MoRoN

that professor is an idiot... yes today budget deficit is high, but that's only because economy is bad once iraq is over in 2010-2011 it'll save 100 billion a year, and also all that defecit spending will be over since economy has recovered. and remember inflation for a few years is a good...

^ thanks, so f22 is basically a light frigate. and the p 28 is basically a very large corvette

this guy is just a ReTaRd

if this is true than expect problems with the sd-10 or pl-12 missiles ordered from china, they are reverse engineered copies of this missile. and reverse engineered is not better than the original because of a few reasons 1. in reverse engineering u cant get right 100% the composition of...

this ship only weighs 3000 tons? i dont understand why its called a frigate the new p 28 corvettes under construction weigh 2500 tons and are corvettes. and talwar class i believe is 4000+ tons

i don't think the point of the "soft loan" argument was paying cash or not, but simply the ability to pay, and right now pakistan doesn't have the ability to pay for so many jf-17s, and the fact that it was a soft loan proves that. did u hear of any soft loans when the mki deal was signed? and...

well no matter what u can expect at least 75 by 2015 that's a pessimistic prediction.

those who say mirage 2000 upgrade is no good... with that upgrade it will get rafael systems although they wont be 100% as capable at rafael due to the single engine factor they should be pretty good and with that new radar, avionics, ew systems, and rewiring everything, and possibly a new...