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The article mentions that the design of 003 had been changed by PLAN before,though we all know what it means... :coffee:

I'm afraid you're wrong, Russian don't need any support at military that they have always had a military advantage to the EU,what they lack is money.Actually EU can't leave Russia to live or they can't leave the natural gas from Russia,and the same Russian can't leave EU or Russian can't leave...

Don't always mention China when you talk about Turkey,China atl least have 3 kinds of turboshaft engine cover the power from 1200KW to 1600KW and is researching two new engines of 2000KW and 5000KW,we don't have engine problem for the 15 tones class or lighter helicopter.

PAF ordered 4Chinese ZDK-03 AWACS to command their JF-17s years ago,do you think peoples in PAF are all stupid?

In fact,Pakistan have chinese AWACS，chinese fighter,chinese LRSAM，chinese land-based Radar and chinese air defense system...the datalinks never be a problem.

JF-17 and j-10C are not the same LV at WVR,J-10Cs have a much higher thrust weight ratio then JF-17s.JF-17B3 can't have competive to Rafale at WVR....that's the reason why PAF still order some J-10C when they have JF-17B3=>they need a fighter to count against the Rafale at both BVR and WVR.

Israel is the dady of the US,you want to use amrican's weapons to fight aganst their dady??:coffee:

But ws-20 is better,right?So,waiting 2~3 years for Y-20B with WS-20 is worth.

Maybe they are not the newest or the advancest ,but they still work. JN1101-F airborne communication countermeasure system on D20

Only learning can change your fate,but peoples do not realize it.

They Koreans/Japaneses spend 10~12+hours on studing or working and fully focas on it eveyday,i don't think Pakistans can do so.

Actually Barak-8 on P15s DDG have a low MAX SPEED that traditional supersonic ASM（≥3Ma）for example YJ12,YJ18,CM-401 and HD-1s ets have enough ability to pose a serious threat to it.

BS from pupu：Maybe some old J10-A will be upgraded with new avionics( LKF601E radar) and offered to North Korea for free as military assistance.

All your UCAVs are just toys when you face EU army,once you Turkey fire toward EU all your satellites will be shutdowned or shooted down and then Turkey army will become a blind and a vegetative.Turkey is not as strong as you think at military power. :rofl:

First batch women drivers finished their maiden flight on Z-20 BTW i'm falling in love with her!

Unfortunately UK had retired all their tanks years ago...:p::rofl:even you can't trust one word from UK.

The missiles on it will be removed.

New batch J-10C with WS10 was in service to take place old J-7E.

It needs a 40KTons+ class die forging press to manufacture this part,had Turkey builted one already?