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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    I quote you ---- ' If you would have the money you will be able to buy Typhoone' --- Care to show me where Pakistan has got the money???? and you are telling me to grow up and not argue for argument sake??? Look at Pakistans current foriegn exchange reserves - the Governments own projections on...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    PAF has laid out its plans for 'minimum credable detterance' which are very sensible within our budget and effective for our defence. JF-17 is a key component of this. F-35, F-22, Rafale and SU and the like are not available to PAF -- ie the producing country will not sell to PAF and even if by...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    You can't go for twin engine because 1. they are more expensive to buy / maintain / operate. Do you think it would be sensible for Pakistan to splash out on twin engine types and reduce squadron strength? 2. Name a single twin engine aircraft that someone is willing to sell to Pakistan. As for...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    The JF-17 was concieved as a cheap but effective and modern replacement for older types such as the A5, F7, Mirage. Certain key performance / capability requirements were set and local production / industrial development was also desired. In all of these key goals it is an astounding success in...
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    PAF should've invested more on J-10s rather than JF-17s

    Even if the figures you have given are correct (which they are not) you yourself have said that the figures for the Indian purchase are from 2000 -- that is 12 years ago. Do you think prices might have gone up a little bit in 12 years. And also did Russia make any offers to sell to Pakistan in...
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    PAF should've invested more on J-10s rather than JF-17s

    PAF Falcon site? Here's a news flash for you to 'go figure' -- THATS NOT AN OFFICIAL PAF SITE!!! So the views given on it are some individuals view not PAF saying it due to 'ego'. You are seriously holding PAF responsible for something some random person on the net has said??? And what is wrong...
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    PAF should've invested more on J-10s rather than JF-17s

    Once again I would ask you to get a grip on reality. What PAF is saying because of their ego?? PAF has not made ANY dumb claims about the JF-17 which later fail to materialise. On the contrary they have been modest and realistic in their claims about JF-17 --only classing it above the F-16A/B...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    This is not just CGI --- these are decals you can buy in 1:72, 1:48 scales from Caracal Models
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    So are you saying it is not coming to Farnborough? If so what source?
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Thank you for a great post. Back to topic -- does anyone know if JF-17 is confirmed for Farnborough yet?
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    I think you need a reality check. Is the Mig 29 upgrade deal, 100's of SU-30's, joint PAKFA also proof of India ' dumping' Russia? Just because Putin may come to Pakistan does not mean he will suddenly hand over anything they want. How many SU's can PAF afford? 36 odd on soft loans? compare that...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    With regard to updates on the jf-17 -- I think there is a need for some patience. Lets not forget that the Dubai Airshow was not that long ago - where we got detailed breifings on the project progress so far and plans over the next few years. PAF is not going to do a press release every time a...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    The sale was stopped????????? When exactly was that. I do not know of any stoppage / delay in supply of RD-93 for the JF-17 programme. You cannot call a few rumours of concern in some Russian quarters that Jf-17 could threaten Russian aircraft sales -- as a stoppage.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    The long and short of it is this -- if the close India / Russia relationship was realy going to have any impact on this fighter -- Russia would have blocked the transfer of RD-93's to Pakistan and that would have delayed the programme. However they chose not to do this despite announcing many...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    I am sorry but this is very much a case of trying to make the best of a bad job. If India had succeeded in stopping the export of engines from Russia for the JF-17 -- that would indeed have meant something. Having failed to do that -- to now suggest that the JF-17 is somehow risky because Russia...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Let me try to dumb this down for you -- PAKISTAN DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY -- In the middle of 2002 they only had $6 billion in reserves --- by the middle of 2012 these reserves were still less than $12 billion and maybe you forgot that little issue of the massive earthquake in 2005 -- by 2008 the...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    More irrelevant dribble!! Whats all this 'you guys' 'you guys'? So Pakistan had the US 'by the ballz' did it?-- tell me was that at the same time as the US was telling Pakistan that it would bomb Pakistan back to the stone age if it didn't co-operate? Funny way of showing Pakistan had them by...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    You are the last person who should be telling people to be embarassed about their statements -- aren't you the one who said Pakistanis lack intelligence, do not have the balls to talk to white folk and said Pakistan was stupid for not buying 100 F-16 BLOCK 52's in 2002---- when the country had...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    This article is written after 2006 yet your critisicm of of Pakistan was that they did not buy lots of expensive top end fighters in 2002 -- and you accuse others of not understanding time. Even though your article is 4 years late -- nowhere does it support your nonesense view that Pakistan had...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    China is in the advanced stages of testing its substitute for the RD-93 - with one aircraft being tested with the new powerplant in China. As for Russia blocking supply - they are letting Pakistan have as many of these engines as it wants despite Indias desperate efforts to the contrary --- so I...
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