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  1. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Sinan, since you are not a decision maker sitting in Ankara in the PM's office or the Army HQ, then your guess is as good as anyone's. ToT could certainly be a factor - but it does not invalidate possible corruption.
  2. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Of course, you and other Chinese forum members know better than: 1) Russian state agency RIA: Russia Looking at China S-400 Deliveries in 2017 | World | RIA Novosti 2) Chinese news: Russia sells China S-400 surface-to-air missiles | China Daily Mail Note this: "Kanwa’s article believes...
  3. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    I am not sure what all this supposed to mean, but you haven't presented any proof or facts. Instead, you presented some blog, called ********, with some video, and short write-up in poor English, meaning it was written by a Chinese national (Sina). It does not reference anything, and in fact, it...
  4. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    Is it why "unimpressed" China has ordered S-400's from Russia and is ready to wait for them until after 2017 ? I guess the term "not really impressed" has a different meaning and understanding for you. 36,000 km?!?!?! Where is that crazy number from? Are you serious? Do you really think...
  5. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    By these points, the clear winner is S-300, as its radar's range and range of its missiles are greater, than HQ-9. Patriot is clearly a loser, as it is not a strategic air-defense system.
  6. gr8vision

    T-LORAMIDS Tender | Updates & Discussion

    It's not finalized yet, so everything is a speculation at this point. Considering that Chinese HQ-9 are, of course, a rip-off of the S-300PT (it's most closely resembles the PT variant, but has elements of other S-300 models [cylinder, truck, radar] and even some minor resemblance to the...
  7. gr8vision

    Racism against Azerbaijani Turks in Iran

    Again, none of these quotes prove anything - all of them appeared sometimes after the 15th century, as the European/Western Rennaissance progressed and being "European" and "Western" was starting to be considered "cool". Until the 15th century, the image and perception of Turks and Turkic was...
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    Racism against Azerbaijani Turks in Iran

    That's not true. Safavids were not Kurdish, the theory of their Kurdishness is not proven and is a fantasy of a few Western scholars such as Savory. What does "Great Iran" mean? When did it exist? Do you refer to 2 centuries of Achaemenids, and 4 centuries of Sassanids - the dynasties that...
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    Racism against Azerbaijani Turks in Iran

    That proves nothing - it's typical for elites ("patricians") in all countries and especially empires to look down at common folk "peasants", also known as plebeans). Same thing was of course in all empires that existed in today's Iran - whether those empires were Azerbaijani Turkic, Turkic...
  10. gr8vision

    Turkish radar systems: How effective are they?

    Turkey should jointly operate the Gabala early-warning radar with Azerbaijan, to be able to see most of Turkey (and its portion of the Medditerranean) till Egypt, as well as all of Iran, all of Arabian peninsula, and portion of western India/Sri Lanka. The station was built in 1986, so it's old...
  11. gr8vision

    Azerbaijan Defence Programs & Military Development

    The photo of Kasirga doesn't look like it's in Azerbaijan.
  12. gr8vision

    Leaders Of Turkic-Speaking States Gather In Azerbaijan

    They are not members of the Turkic Council for the time being.
  13. gr8vision

    Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

    Very interesting. So who were the "gang"? Which foreign intelligence, or local group, were they comprised of? The Today's Zaman simply refers to it as a "gang", which is ridiculous - it's far more than just a 'gang'.
  14. gr8vision

    Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

    Thank you everyone for the great responses. Aside from the GPS dependency though, what about air-to-surface and air-to-air missiles? For example, what other options do Turkish and Pakistani armed drones (UCAV's) have aside from Hellfire?
  15. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    Thanks Atatwolf - he can be anyone, his ethnic belonging is not important. There are many very good people from Iran, of Persian, Kurdish, Lur, etc., ethnicities. Likewise, there are some bad one's - some of them of Turkic ethnic background, including Azerbaijanis and Turkmens. What matters is...
  16. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    More on Kasravi from prominent Iranologists: Ahmad Kasravi on Iran and Azerbaijan "But the problem, it seems to me, is not entirely with commentators on Kasravi's works as with the complexity and contradictory character of Kasravi's thought over the decades. A man who sought to resolve Iran's...
  17. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    What do you mean Arab religion, Arab language and Arab jurisprudence, as well as Arab poetry before Firdowsi, haven't "displaced Iranian cultural elements"? What "cultural elements"? Please present a detailed list of those "cultural elements". Persian today is 40% Arabic - why didn't you...
  18. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    I gave you facts, quotes from authoritative historians, and straight-forward logical explanations, and you just 1) continue to simply repeat yourself, as well as 2) leave all of my facts without an answer. You can't explain your own inconsistencies - so were Safavids Kurdish or Persian? Or as...
  19. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    One more thing - here are Iranian (Bakhtiari, Lori, etc.) nomads today: Bakhtiari Nomads, Khuzestan, Iran | Anthropology.net People Documentary Bakhtiari Nomads: Photo Images by Sadegh Miri Photography - photo.net So I guess "highly-cultured" haven't gone that far from "uncultured" Turks...
  20. gr8vision

    Turkic speaking countries might create free trade zone

    Look who's talking. "Persians" use Arab alphabet and Arab religion. Persian language is at least 40% Arabic. Look at Persians - you will see a huge variation, from really dark and short people to tall and lighter-skinned. Some have more slanted eyes, others have more round eyes. Genetic...
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