From the 4 reasons you mentioned above, I can only say that for some they are simply not quite true.
Turkey has always been in a key geographical position, had a very large population and although indeed the population might have been poor, the country was always in relative strong foundations...
Well, this is what international courts are for.
Why does Turkey refuse to resort to one with Greece and for so long now (more than 30 years)?
An educated guess is that Turkey is afraid it will lose the case.
Do you have another? My ears are open.
As for the islands you mention, anything...
Just because they did it too, it doesn't mean you off the hook. (or anyone else for that matter)
It is for the sense of justice in the name of the dead and more importantly for the sake of a countries own people.
What would the German be if Germany denied what happened in WW2 ? ever...
Couldn't agree more. I just feel that Turkey should be more forthcoming sometimes, not so much for historical accuracy, but more for its own people. There are no innocents in war. This must be the point made, always.
A went to former Yugoslavia slightly after the civil war. That I believe was when I realised military attitude costs way to much in human misery.
Things I saw wouldn't wish them upon my worst enemy... it kind of changed my perspective.
I am trying hard not to say this, because war is bad and lost lives are never excused but: You should be the last to talk about persecutions of any kind.
With all due respect to the dead on all sides.
grow up..........
Only One of the two is legal. That is the problem Turkey has right now. Plus unfortunately for you, we cannot have a new rule for continental shelf between the two countries and applicable only to these two countries simply because Turkey doesn't like it.
it doesn't work...
As I said, the frigates are necessary for the upgrade of the fleet. Buying two new ones can save us millions from servicing 4 old ones which are going to be retired any way.
2 frigates don't make up a deterrent force, what they do is make it cheaper for us to have a decent fleet.
For Greece...
1st of all, I am sorry but the map you provided is not clear enough. Can you provide one with better resolution or bigger maybe?
2nd. Greece's relations with Albania are a separate issue (in which Turkey has its hand in, but the USA also).
3rd. I don't see what the frigates have to do with...
I am almost grateful you posted this above.
From what you are saying one can clearly see that in reality you (personally at least, but it is common with many Turkish friends in this forum) have no real argument other than "we are too big not to have sea!"
I am afraid how much "sea" (if anyone...
There is the middle line policy proposed by Greece a long time ago. I think on this issue Turkey is following a more determined and with clear goals approach, but Greece is following one that is more realistic.
Turkey is used to flexing its muscles but this is an issue that muscles cant' help...
Name one that isn't! With the exception of old europe (Germany, UK, etc) every other country is a B**** of the west.
Even russia suffered that fate in the 90's .. so ..
@Deno
I am sorry, is the above post of any value then?
I presume it is, so..
I agree, Turkey should not siege (!!???) Greece. I think it should infiltrate our highest echelons of power, bribe, blackmail and force our leaders into doing her bidding and then make Greece a puppet nation as...
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and then I am the delusional.
I think from you guys' last posts, one can clearly see, you are adolescent boys with wet army dreams.
I am afraid the world isn't like what you think, but then again, growing...