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Huh ? He is the founder of Turkey and this is a fact not a opinion or a certain viewpoint. History wise we go back to to the 5th century. You need to make sense. Disliking the founder who brought us out of the hell hole that the ottoman empire had become makes me think your one of those...

The type 21s currently the backbone of PN are both less capable and older. So while it may not be a modern platform it is still a cost effective ship.

@Ovarel Negative i have no interest in people like that. Ovarel your really one the talk the last time we had a discussion where i educated you i was met trolling. Actions speak for themselves.

You can have any type of personal view on anyone you like but don't expect someone to just accept that your calling the nations founder a dictator your going to get called out and criticized on it. It shows you utter lack of knowledge. I have laid out many concerns that have not been addressed...

100% agree. Infact i see it personally in Arizona. They live out in the middle of nowhere in "reservations" now and these places are very very poor and separated from the population centers.

Except it has to surprise you with its cannon going 25 knots. Kilic 2 can suprise you going 42 knots from 30km away with Harpoon SSM. These are curcial differences that make a Fast attack craft different then a Patrol boat. YTKB however does have a sonar and ASW capability and that is a...

CAIRO (Reuters) – Two Iranian naval ships are due to sail through the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean on Monday, Suez Canal officials said, denying a report from Iran that said the ships had already gone through the waterway. The vessels, the first Iranian naval ships to sail through the...

I think for Egypt to choose the JF-17 would be a very wise decision when you consider the restrictions they have on their F-16s (No BVR armaments) and that makes them a very defensive force and a clear disadvantage. Not only this but when we actually break down what needs to be replaced it...

You should open your eyes so you can read i would think. Kurds were always recognized as long as it didn't run into multiculturalism we see having completely failed in European states which every party in Turkey is against which isn't Kurdish so that isn't much of a point. It has been...

I never said women are forbidden to wear anything except in secular buildings for obvious constitutional reasons. This is a secular country there are separations in place. Also the military only comes in when parties are against the founding principals of the state are elected. They are removed...

What happened the other thread was too much so you jumped in this one ? Alright then why don't you start by actually proving to me ergenekon even exists then we can actually discuss weather i am pro or against them. The military has for too long been fixing parties who ideologies and motives run...

Zaman is not a credible news source. Unless your anti-military, and like conspiracies. I have said this before post other Turkish news papers.

My grip on reality is perfectly fine however yours is very very suspect. Crashing planes into mosques, starting a war with greece to overthrow the government. Plz don't make yourself out to be a clueless idiot. If you even took a little bit of time instead of you and others living in your...

Thats just great i wonder who is running the military right now ? 1/10th of our commanding force is now in jail facing trial. Way to shutdown our military and put it in utter disarray. This nonsense has gone on long enough its really time for more people to take to the streets and say enough.

Thousands of people have joined military wives to protest the trial of 196 officers accused of an alleged secularist plot to bring down Turkey’s government. Around 15,000 people gathered at the mausoleum of the founder of the Turkish republic on Saturday despite heavy rain. They shouted...

It is a 40+ year old command ship. I would be worried if it wasn't being tracked.

The Turks ruled them. The Persians ruled them. And now you can see how they rule themselves.

Egypt opens Gaza border crossing -- one way (AFP) – 17 hours ago RAFAH, Palestinian Territories — Egypt on Friday reopened its Rafah border crossing to Gaza, shut since anti-regime protests erupted on January 25, but only to allow Palestinians to enter the enclave. One of the...

Egypt says Iran ships can use Suez Canal: source Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:26am GMT Egypt says Iran ships can use Suez Canal: source | Top News | Reuters By Marwa Awad CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt has approved the passage of two Iranian navy ships through the Suez Canal, an army source said, a move that...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/world/europe/19turkey.html?partner=rss&emc=rss ISTANBUL — Three journalists from a Web site critical of the government were jailed and charged on Friday as part of an investigation into accusations that the military plotted to overthrow Turkey’s pro-Islamic...