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Depends on what the benefit for India is! These tie ups so far are only based on outsourcing production parts to India, to reduce the cost of the foreign product. Tata is not aiming on using these tie ups to develop a helicopter on their own, nor to offer any aircraft to the Indian forces. So...

He is not wrong, because the important point here is: So it's not about actual defence acquisitions, but only about cleared proposals to either start or go on with a tender / procurement. And most of them, actually are already passed under the UPA as magudi said (Avro replacement, Apache and...

The tender is still on, but officially is for LDP's, but thanks to the bad habit of IN to send out RFP's that doesn't make clear what they actually want, the Mistral class actually would fit the specs too, which is why DCNS is offering it. The problem with the once for Russia however are, that...

I simply don't see things just from a single perspective, but differ based on the case. The only Indian defence development field were we actually are successful is the helicopter field. HAL did and still is doing a great job and I said it often enough, that we (especially IN) are doing a great...

And they were a combined deal with the carrier, no tender, no competition, no licence production => therefor the only industrial benefit was offsets, like the RD33 MK assembly line at HAL (I still criticize though, that we haven't got the Mig 29K production line to HAL, since we mainly funded...

First of all, the intermediate point doesn't hold it's own anymore, since HAL's LUH will make it's first flight this year and production start is planned within the next few years too. There is hardly any difference in timeframe anymore for a foreign company to set up production in India, or for...

Only if he refers to the original contract, but not if he refers to the current status of the order and the information in the Rajya Sabha actually should be about that, not things that are known for years. Anyway, all that doesn't mean anything until FOC is reached anyway, since that is the...

@GURU DUTT Can't find the thread anymore, but here is the cabin cross section that I made, to show the differences:

HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2] | Page 24 It's not that difficult to mix "F"OC with "I"OC don't you think?

It's not comparable to those, since it's far smaller and not meant for heavy or tactical transports. You can transport cargo / palets, troops and even smaller vehicles, but by far not in the range of MTA, ot the larger aircrafts. The C295 will do anything the An 32 does today, just better and...

That report is mainly about the induction time line and we know that only SP1 and SP2 are produced in IOC condition, so that's probably only a typo. FOC is still planned for the end of this year and SP3 and 4 should be the first produced in that standard.

Not necessarily, because those examples are for diverted offsets, not for similar equipment that we could get, if we comply to US terms, or would be a NATO partner. It's good that we got them so far to accept, that we can't sign CISOMA and that we replace at least some parts with Indian stuff...

The plan for now is to have both IOC versions this year and at least 2 FOC versions by the end of this FY, by march 2016.

What is more worrying is this part: Unnamed source of course, but if true the whole LUH scrapping and re-issuing was a total waste and defence deals today are decided by politics and not the needs of the forces anymore. If they wanted the Ka226, they simply could had declared it to the winner...

Actually, he might had been convinced by the recent reports that the ICG wants to be part of the deal, at least I hope so, but my point was about his remarks that IAF doesn't really need an Avro replacement, which the IAF refuted too. So if he now clears the deal, his opinon has changed and...

Apart that those were deals in different times and conditions, all the things that you mentioned have no relation to the MMRCA / Rafale deal, nor does it make what he said in this case less true does it? I am with you when it comes to him personally and that he belongs to the worst of the...

Well these are only DAC clearances and far away from any signed contract, but at least for the Avro replacement that's a good step, seems like Parrikar has understood that these aircrafts are important. Other than that, we already have the MTA development for the medium class. Any defence...

True, but in this case the essence is correct! - 36 fighters by far not enough for the IAF requirement - no industrial benfits, which is one of the prime points of the whole tender - personal and hectic decision of the PM, not in the line of 1 year of NDA policy in that tender, which only...

Don't mix delivery / induction into IAF, with production! The production plan reportedly peaks at 16 per year from 2017 onwards, so the first 20 and some of the 2nd squad will be "produced" in 2017, but induction of into IAF in full squadron service will be be later. That's standard procedure...

That's what @PARIKRAMA stated earlier too, the DM is making statements that doesn't add up and at the end it boils down to saving money only, if you get a clearly smaller order. I have some doubts about the figures though, since we know from the French Senat reports, that the flyaway cost for...