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  1. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    If Arab/Palestine/Hamas has nuke, they will definitely use it to destroy Israel. While Israel with her nuke doesnt intend to use against any arab nation. So, who is the one that respect humanity? :enjoy:
  2. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Intention to wipe out Israel from middle east while accusing Israel for genocide is the real Hypocrisy :)
  3. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    It is easy for Israel to genocide Palestine and other arab nations if she will. But she never did it. It was Arab/Palestine/Hamas who desire greatly to wipe out and genocide Israel from middle east, but thanks God they are not capable in doing that :)
  4. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    You always use logical fallacy :) Israel have nuke to protect herself, not to genocide Arab/Palestine. Arab tried to create nukes (Iraq) but failed. Other arab nations try to comply with UN's non proliferation of nuke. Israel is not the agressor no try genocide, she is just defending herself...
  5. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Which one? give me evidence. I dont see Israel intend to destroy Palestine, if she intend so then Palestine has been destroyed already by Israel nuke etc; but I can see Arab nations (including you) intend to destroy Israel nation. Apart from who is more capable, the party that intend to genocide...
  6. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    You are the one who need to learn the definition of genocide first. Genocide is not about stronger attacking weaker as you apply with double standard on Israel-Palestine case. Definition from Brittanica Genocide, the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their...
  7. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    By your definition/understanding, would you accept that Palestine' intifada was a genocide? and Hamas has been trying to genocide Israel?
  8. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Which land stealing you are talking about? dont twist meaning of genocide. No I am not. So?
  9. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    None of the UN resolution you brag here talks about Israel genocide. No, I am not a zionist.
  10. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Your answers has been countered, and no more answer from you. Look on the last questions in my last post, even these question you still unable to answer anymore. How about UN Report (by UNRWA)? UNRWA strongly condemns placement of rockets in school...
  11. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    No I am not ashamed of my religion, I've told you I dont want you to deflect discussion with this irrelevant thing and runaway from discussion. It seems slander is already your bad habit :)
  12. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    And i've told you so many times .... I dont want to answer this personal thing of me, if you can't explain the relevance into our topic of discussion. Which Occupation? Palestine also occupy territory. I've told you many times: West Bank occupation on region C is as legal as Palestine...
  13. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    You havent answer my question at all. What is your point asking my religion to do with discussion. Give me logical answer LOL. There is none UN resolution that you post saying Israel did genocide, it is your own delusion. Genocide definition is not as simple as army killing civilians; you...
  14. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    You are deflecting discussion with religion and other irrelevant things. My question. 1. You said: you want to discuss it from humanity point of view not from religion, but you are asking my religion. Do you want to change the discussion into religion point of view now? 2. Otherwise, what is...
  15. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Then why dont you answer my question? If you have logical reason then I will answer my religion.
  16. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Right. But Islam perspective and humanity perspective may not be the same. From humanity perspective, existence of Israel state is alligned with humanity while expectation of Arab nations to eliminate Israel from middle east is against humanity.
  17. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    We have been discussing it high and low through pages, there is no international legal/law/standard that is against Israel state existence; if there is please show. Israel existence is only against Arab nations will. Their existence is recognized by UN, and their territory is legal under the UN...
  18. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Germany region already belong to Germany state. Except there were quite many Jews community concentrated in certain area and wanted to make referendum to seperate from Germany state to be independent Jewish state, but the situation was not like that.
  19. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    I've told you many times .... there is no relevance between your answer for "genocide" and "my religion", except you want to discuss it from the religion point of view, do you? but you said you discuss it from humanity point of view ... so why inconsistent and ignorant? :rofl: Now back to the...
  20. antonius123

    Indonesia Leaders : We Stand With The People of Palestine

    Why ignoring my other citation, and selective reading? There are tons of evidence/citation regarding UNRWA reports about Hamas human shield i've given above., and it is not consensus but fact finding. Consensus just talk about view from majority, while fact finding is about "fact/truth". You...
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