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Guys,please dont laugh.Maybe you dont like the SAC,maybe you will claim that SAC has too less innovation comparing to the CAC.But please for the sake of national interest,we need to let the SAC survive.

Nah.Many options.For example,Anti-ship version of CJ10 LACM.Dont forget they initially called the CJ10 the DongHai10(东海10, or east sea 10).I wont expect it could reach 1500km to 2000km like its land attack version,but a rang about 800 km to 1000km could be expected.Also YJ-12 and...

How about J20 Panda Warrior like this?

Not too much we can gain from it.And its imposible to import some major weapons like tanks,fighters or ships.But China still can learn something from the Europe in some certain areas,like engines design and making,sensors and helicopters,and perhaps design of an aircraft carrier from England or...

Another Russian BS after drinking too much vodka.

It seems you know a lot about the Chinese political system,at least you did some homework.Are you sure you are an Indian?

My god,its already 12 years.At that time I was still a boy.

I disagree.The J20 is a heavy fighter focusing on air superior.Its just too heavy for a Chinese aircraft carrier which will be mostlikely around 6,5000 tons.The navy will require a multirole stealth fighter,lighter and enhanced on air to ground.Plus the SAC already worked on the J15.I think the...

Dude,why do you put together the J20 with a N.Korea Mig17?

For many years pepole are talking about 'the wolf is coming',now its coming but pepole trends to deny it.Ironic,isnt it? PS:The argument is based on logic and true evidence.I agree that these arguments are reasonable since the pictures are not clear.But I also believe that the J20 exists and...

It cant be secret,imagine how many fans are around CAC now.I guess everyday there will be around 500 to 1000 pepole are watching it.And more guys are willing to join.The first flight will be under thousands of eyes. PS:I reply in this thread does not mean I agree on Sinosoldiers another crap...

That is your wet dream.Close your eyes,repeat 100 times"that wont happen",maybe the first fly wont happen in this month,thats the only possibility you can stop the J20 maiden flight.

The J9,J12,J13 projects were more or less correlated.China gaine a lot of experience from the failed projects.Otherwise where does the J10 come from? Most of the design about J10 was from the abandoned J9.

Where did you get this? Is that you who cooked the Chinese aircraft industry history without any evdidence? Read this:ÖйúµÚÈý´ú¼ß9¼°¼ß11¼ß12¼ß13Õ½»úÏîÄ¿½ÒÃØ£¡×éͼ_Ç¿¹ú¾üÊÂÍø-¾üÊÂÐÂÎÅÍøÕ¾-ÖйúV Its very clear that J13 had nothing to do with CAC or 611 insititute.It mentioned that J13 was...

This is the called J12,go to the military museum in Beijing you will find it. ---------- Post added at 02:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 PM ---------- ---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 PM ----------

BS thread.

Lol,J12 was a fighter the Chinese air force built in the 1970s,its in the museum now.Its nickname is 空中李向阳. The J13 or J14 were some concept prototypes like the abandoned J9 to test the technology and possibilityThey never made any real J13 or J14.

The yellow painting is to protect the aircraft from oxigondize from the air.This time the colour is dark green because they used stealth absorbtion materials on it which tends to reduce the RCS.

J20 seems to be quit different from the J10.In 1990s China was more or less a developing poor country comparing today which was without too much confidence.The J7 and J8 were the backbone of the PLAAF .However,the PLAAF has 200 J10s,400 J11s,around 250 JH7A today which is a deadlly airforce...

A lot of Chinese insiders already have the clear shoots of the J20,however no body wants to take the risk to release their pictures.Remember the guy who leaked the J10 prototype pictures without permission was jailed for ten years.Most likely the PLAAF will leak the J20 pictures on an impotant...