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    PIA in final discussions with Airbus and Boeing for major narrowbody deal

    10% of 2 billion =$200 million. Sounds yummy!
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    end of Oct this year
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    Interviews Thread

    INTERVIEW WITH PAC CHAIRMAN FARHAT HUSSAIN PART 1 PART 2 Pretty good video :)
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    INTERVIEW WITH PAC CHAIRMAN FARHAT HUSSAIN PART 1 PART 2 Pretty good video :)
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    You probably have a better knowledge of it than I do. I was just quoting from Defensenews.
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    While I do not intend to defend the action of PAF. They are just another organization in pakistan and like any other organization they too have some corruption and its officers aren't aliens but fellow countrymen. Before putting the whole blame on PAF, however, it would be wiser to analyze the...
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    who says so? The F-7 we got were better than Chinese F-7s. ZKD-03 and FC-20 will undergo various changes to incorporate "better" equipment because PAF doesn't like "current" ones. Surely and upgrade and not a degraded one. Even the techonologies in JF-17 are new that Chinese are only...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    Around 6 this year and the capacity will reach 25/yr when production peaks (probably by 2011). " The first operational squadron of JF-17s is based at Peshawar and is set to fully enter service by the end of the year. The Peshawar-based JF-17s initially are to be tasked with the air-to-air...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Yeah, but we had lots of time before this govt. to finalize what avionics we wanted. Or perhaps we were waiting to get the latest since avionics advance quite rapidly and China has been growing well in this aspect. I believe Munir is referring to the speech by ACM posted in the JF-17 thread...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    I think it is one and the same. The equipment will be bought from US and the word done in Turkey. Remember also that the F-16 will undergo both the MLU for incorporating newer equipments and the Falcon Star upgrade for zeroing the life of the airframe And what options did we have? Go for...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    I second Fatman. Mods need to be more pro-active. We just have tons and tons of threads on the same few topics. What's the use of having a sticky JF-17 thread if every news is going to have a separate thread of its own?
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    The IFR was supposed to happen from the serial production models -- in other words the plane that is supposed to start manufacturing from next month and not on the SBP models. Btw, if the Mirages can be fitted with IFR then all JF-17s can be fitted with an IFR at a later stage even if it...
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    Air Force Quotes

    Hitler built a fortress around Europe, but he forgot to put a roof on it. — Franklin D. Roosevelt
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    That's not a PT-04 but a SBP-106. Those "sensors" that are shown might just be there for testing purposes and hence missing from the production model. Here's a pic of PT-04 that shows the same "sensors". The antenna does look different and is consistent with earlier speculations in...
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    Paris : Xiaolong 40 fighter planes for the Pakistan Air Force

    I believe it is a translation from a chinese webpage. Don't know how it is written in Chinese, but google occasionally translate it to "Palestinian side" when translating the word (I presume) pakistani. @munir Were you able to extract some info (beyond what we know) from those guys?
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    Interesting pictures (CG). Check out the weapon load in place of the center tanks. Its carrying the chinese anti-ship/anti-radiation missile
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    Musharraf ruined PAF project, says ex-air chief

    Ex-air chief asked to appear as witness ISLAMABAD: The National Assembly’s standing committee on defence has convened former air chief Saadat Kaleem as witness to publicly scrutinise the multi-billion dollar defence deals by the Pakistan Air Force. The committee took up the matter when a...
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