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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    The delivery dates were published back in 2008. I am surprised that people are surprised when they hear the dates.
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    J-10 Will Come With T O (P) T

    As other people have said, PAF and PAC have clearly mentioned that there is no industrial interest in producing J-10s in Pakistan. As far as ToT is concerned, a lot of it is already here since the JF-17 and J-10 will share quite a few technologies. As usual, engines will be foreign and radar...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    Sometimes, you work with a technology and get stuck with it. You keep trying to work harder and harder but the improvements are marginal. It turns out, you need to try a different technology and that may work out faster, better and easier than spending time on what you got stuck with. From the...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Why should PAF go for gripen's radar? May be you should ask yourself, What advantages does gripen's radar have over what PAF is looking at i.e. Vixen AESA, RC-400, etc? It depends if Bangladesh are going to maintain it for a long time in which case they can be cannibalized for spares and...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    Mark, Its pretty unlikely that a new engine is tried and 'fine-tuned' in a single engine aircraft. So I do not believe that the J10B will be trying it out (unless it is already a proven engine). The best chance we have is that those J-11B pics actually do have the WS-10A on it and that...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    Yes but so far none has entered service or been long enough to prove its reliability. The only thing we have to go by is some J-11B pics "apparently" with chinese engines. WS-15 is even longer. So what are the chances they will be functional by the FC-20 timeline (and they have to be at...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    It is dangerous in today's world to align oneself completely to one supplier no matter how 'close' you are. PAF has learnt its lessons from the F-16 and is and should try to diversify and more importantly become self reliant especially on major assets. You don't want to find yourself in a...
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    Early Warning - The Phalcon “Phallacy”

    Early Warning - The Phalcon “Phallacy” Analysis of this Threat [Air Commodore (Retd) SHAHID KAMAL KHAN] Here we go again. Keeping up with the Joneses! If the Indians are bent upon hurting themselves, why should we be left behind? And, if they are planning to hurt themselves a little bit...
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    PAF always ready to protect nation against any threat: Rao Qamar

    Letting them take off and land from our airbases as per govt. agreements. Seriously, do you still think the drones are "intruding" our airspace? They are here with our permission, they land and take off from our airbases, and fly in pakistan with full government approval. Why would PAF do...
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    Taimur: Pakistan's ICBM?

    The same industries that made Shaheen-II and Babur and Ra'ad. Building an ICBM is not much difficult if you have multiple stage boosters technology using solid state fuels which the shaheen has. Similarly, in my opinion though I'm not an expert, building a 4000-5000km missile is probably the...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

    Since JF-17 is a fighter jet that almost always will have to carry missiles, the aircraft is designed to be optimized (for flying) with these two wingtip missiles. That means that the jet flies better with these two missiles than without it, even if the missiles are just empty weights dummy...
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    Taimur: Pakistan's ICBM?

    If there is one already, we won't (or shouldnt) reveal it until pakistan is in real danger like a war with US is imminent. its like those childhood fairy tales you hear where a Jinn (Genie) or some Strong influential man has his rooh (soul/spirit) in a tota (parrot) and the other guys get hold...
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    ISI Clearance Mandatory For Visit To Pakistan

    The source is a bit doubtful considering I have seen or read it on any of the mainstream media. If true though, it is good news especially concerning those "security agencies of US".
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    pakistan and italy are the same

    I friend of mine (who live in Italy for a year) always says that when pakistan gets rich and industrialized, it will become Italy. :lol: Lots of commonality like politics, driving, bureaucracy, impatience, street loudness, unorganized timetables, etc. They beat us in pickpockets and...
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    Let See How Amazing is Mathematics (1=2)

    A father is male :P Answer: Sell the apples as a "basket" for a fixed (constant) amount. Same method of selling and same income.
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    China to complete J-10 development before launching fifth-generation fighter

    ^^ Please refrain from posting photoshop images. Or atleast give a clear warning else you might mislead some people.
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    China to complete J-10 development before launching fifth-generation fighter

    Wow! you guys are really expecting that from Zardari? Good luck. I imagine pakistan developing its own Rafales before this happening :lol:
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    China to complete J-10 development before launching fifth-generation fighter

    It would need more than saving some money to buy Rafales. Lets try robbing some banks instead-- its more practical solution. ;)
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    hahaha..these are airborne early warning systems not fighter jets that the journalist is comparing one-on-one. They will probably never come within 200-300km of each other let alone jamming the other's system. And if that were the case, then Ericsson and Erieye would soon be out of business. And...
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    J-10: The New Cornerstone of Sino-Pakistani Defense Cooperation

    Firstly, its doubtful we will have 150 J10 fighters because former PAF chief has clearly said we need 150 "hi-end" fighters comprising both F-16s and FC-20s. So the two of them combined will make the figure of 150 not just the FC-20s. Secondly, even if they are, they won't be coming in one go...
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